Hi, everyone. Welcome to Book Club episode. Today I am talking with Liz from Liz Gets Loaded about the book,

Say Goodbye to Things by Fumio Sasaki. I wanted to talk to Liz because I'll be honest, I think we

have similar aspirations around minimizing and similar hesitations, or at least I feel confident

that like me, she's thought about this a lot.

I know Liz has taken some serious action around wanting to live a more streamlined life,

and maybe I thought she would spur me into action as well.

I have to say I'm really excited to have this conversation about the role of things in our lives.

I remember talking to Brad many episodes back about his minimalist apartment.

And he said something like, I could replace everything on Amazon in 30 minutes, like everything in his apartment.

And I found that so impressive and so unsettling. And I couldn't even really

articulate why. And I think that's because our relationship with things are complicated,

just like our relationships with other people. And this book gets into that, at least a little.

And Liz and I are going to get into that even more. Welcome, Liz, and welcome to

choose a high. Ginger. I'm so excited to talk to you. I couldn't sleep last night. I was like

tomorrow's Ginger die. Well, we're so happy to have you. We know that everybody

read this book and everybody knows everything about the book. But just in case. I confess,

I have shown up to a book club meeting, maybe not having completed or started the book. Not today.

Today I definitely have read this book three or four times, but

have you, I mean, you've shown up to like the girl's night just for the wine and chatting,

right? I'm the person who always assumes that everyone has read the book and that never

turns out to be true. So that's like a thing that I need to learn that like, oh, ginger. People

don't want to do homework.

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