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You and I have a present comment.

Every stupid thing that a writer could do I've done.

That's really beautiful.

Take a moment. What a struggle, you know? It was incredible. It's like your head exploded, seeing what was really there. And now here's your host, Brad Listy. Just one person. Hey, hello, everybody. How's it going? Welcome to the Other People podcast. I'm Brad Listy. Here I am. How are you doing? I'm in Los Angeles. I am back for another episode. It's good to be with you.

I have Chip Cheek on the program. Chip Cheek. He's got a novel out. His debut. It's called Cape May.

It is available from Selladon Books. It has been earning rave reviews, starred reviews.

It has a lot of sex in it, which you don't see enough of, really, in literary fiction. So it was great to meet him and great to talk to him.

Chip Cheek, his novel again is Cape May, that conversation coming up momentarily. I do have some mail to get

to. A listener named Jeffrey writes, Brad, just wanted to share listener feedback on episode 589 with Steve

Allman. I really enjoyed this particular conversation as it gave me a lot of food for thought and

concern to the struggle

of the inner life. I have personally been going through a tough time over the past year,

even succumbing to suicidal thoughts for the first time in my life. Not that I would go through

with it, I wouldn't. But hearing that voice within me was terrifying, particularly since I'm a dad with a loving, supportive

wife. While a part of me wanted to avoid this voice and shun it, instead I made a point to

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