All right, welcome everyone back to dissecting popular IT nerds today.

We have James Ordnance on the phone, senior.

And when I say senior, I mean, that's kind of a big deal. Senior information technology

manager at Hydrite. Welcome to the show, James. And before you get into, you know,

what was your first computer if you ever even had a computer? I was going through some old

IT memes today and one came up was 33%. Don't ask me how they come up with one third,

but 33% of IT managers are viewed as order takers, meaning you just take orders. And I don't know how I feel

about that because I'm here to start the revolution of IT or continue

the revolution as we see it of IT as a business force multiplier and a essential piece to the business.

So I'm just going to let you speak to that for a second. Are you an order taker?

Yeah, great, great question and thanks for

having me. The short answer is I think that's what we've been for a long time and we're

trying to grow out of it, right? So we had previously worked for Caterpillar, big yellow machines

and big holes in the ground type of thing. And we spent a lot of time at Caterpillar trying to come around to the idea that, yes,

we're not just order takers.

This is not a McDonald's.

You don't come to the window and tell us what you want and we deliver it.

And really trying to be a consultant and a consultative approach with the business to come and say,

what's the best solution,

not what's the solution you're requesting.

And that's not to say that the business doesn't come up with some really good solutions.

They definitely do.

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