Hi everybody and welcome to this week's Squiggly Career podcast. I am Helen Tupper. I'm one of the co-founders of Amazing If and I'm here in person in Marlebone Station with the other co-founder Sarah Ellis. Hi everyone. So you'll have to excuse us if there's a little bit of noise or if it's a bit echoy because we're in quite a large meeting room with just two of us.

With just two of us.

With wooden floors and quite a lot of people walking around.

But on the bright side we get to be together, which makes us happy.

It makes us happy.

You'll probably hear that in the podcast.

It's not 9 o'clock in the evening when we're recording in the dark. So this week then on the Squiggly Careers podcast, we're going to be talking about gravitas. It's a small word, but it always sounds

quite big and impressive. And I think sometimes we get feedback on gravitas. It's a sort of thing

that people will say to you, oh, you need more gravitas when you're in the room, Helen, or Sarah,

it'd be great if you could bring a bit more gravitas to that situation. Or presence, sometimes people say, yeah.

And it's like, that's really interesting, but I don't really know what that means.

And I don't really know how to do it.

So what we're going to do this week is talk about actually what we think it means.

We're going to talk about a few myths of gravitas, challenge a few of those myths so that gravitas is something that we can all develop

whatever stage you're at in your career. And we're also going to share some really, really

practical top tips for you so that you can start investing some time in developing your

Gravitas now. So maybe the first thing that we can do is have a bit of a chat, I think,

about what Gravitas actually means. Sarah and I had a very brief chat before we press record.

And you've got a definition, haven't you, about what it means to you?

Yeah, so I was thinking about this.

And because I think it's something that people often get feedback on,

my first question actually would be, if somebody has given you that feedback,

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