59. An 'Improvised Nuclear Device'

Battleground

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🗓️ 14 June 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Colonel Hamish de Bretton-Gordon joins Saul and Patrick for this week's big interview. Hamish brings a wealth of knowledge and experience from his time as commanding officer of the UK's Joint Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Regiment and from his active service during the first Gulf War. Among other things Hamish discusses his concern over what the Russians may do with the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant following their destruction of the Kakhovka Dam, and the potential If you have any thoughts or questions, you can send them to - [email protected] Producer: James Hodgson Twitter: @PodBattleground Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:48.3	Yeah. Hello and welcome to Battleground Ukraine's big interview with me Saul David and Patrick Bishop.
0:54.1	Today we're talking to Colonel Hamish de Breton Gordon, a former officer in the Royal Tank Regiment and the 14th, 20th
0:55.6	Hazars, who saw active service in the First Gulf War, and later commanded the UK's Joint Chemical,
1:01.9	biological, radiological and nuclear regiment, and also NATO's rapid reaction, CBRN Battalion.
1:14.1	Hamish, welcome to the podcast.
1:16.1	Now, the two big pieces of news last week with the effective start of the Ukrainian
1:19.9	counteroffensive and shortly after the destruction of the Kukovka Dam.
1:25.3	You were one of the first analysts to pin the blame squarely on the Russians
1:28.6	when many journalists were simply reporting dutifully, no doubt they felt that each side
1:34.0	had blamed the other. Your view, and ours as it happens, has been confirmed by the release
1:38.7	of various bits of intelligence. Do you think now, though, with a few days after the event, Hamish, that the Russian
1:45.9	action was deliberate or partially a cock-up? Well, that's a really good question, but I think it
1:52.0	was probably deliberate. I know that an awful lot of journalists were sitting so firmly on the fence
1:56.6	last week that they're in danger of injuring themselves. And I sort of appreciate that,
2:02.1	you know, the balance view and everything else. But, you know, certainly in my experience,
2:07.1	creating obstacles like this can be incredibly effective. And in my piece last week in the
2:12.8	Telegraph, I talked about when I was with the Peshmerga in the fight with ISIS back in 2017. And an ISIS
2:19.2	blew up somewhere called Al-Mishak, a sulphur mine, put a huge cloud, 400,000 tons of
2:26.3	sulfur dioxide in the air, which had an really profound effect on the Iraqi army who were
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