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The Rest Is History

589. Mary, Queen of Scots: Downfall (Part 6)

The Rest Is History

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4.6 • 26.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Following the murder of her husband, Lord Darnley, how did Mary Queen of Scots - thought to have conspired for his death - navigate the most precarious situation of her young life so far? Would she marry again, and if so whom? Why was she forced to flee her enemies dressed as a man, and would she escape the threat of imprisonment? Could she look to her fellow cousin, Elizabeth I, for aid, or face the Virgin Queen’s condemnation? And, would she come out from these tumultuous events a queen and unscathed, or dethroned, and traumatised for life? Join Tom and Dominic as they reach the dramatic climax of their journey through the reign of Mary Queen of Scots, as steps into the hands of Elizabeth I and her spymasters. Would this most brave and belligerent, but now beleaguered of women, survive the most perilous period of her life? The Rest Is History Club: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to full series and live show tickets, ad-free listening, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestishistory.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestishistory. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com _______ Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Producer: Theo Young-Smith Assistant Producer: Tabby Syrett + Aaliyah Akude Executive Producers: Jack Davenport + Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:02.3

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0:04.0

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0:06.8

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0:09.5

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0:13.2

That is, the rest is history.com. It was not the Darnley murder which brought Mary down.

0:31.7

The fact was that an embarrassment had been removed, a problem resolved.

0:35.9

There was no doubt whatsoever that Mary could have continued

0:38.8

her reign, free of the albatross, because that was precisely what people wanted. What she had to do,

0:46.7

as Elizabeth and Catherine de Medici, both of whom stood by her in February 1567, begged her to do, was to preserve an appearance of innocence,

0:57.8

allow the scandal to burn itself out, enable stability to return.

1:02.7

Rulers did recover from great scandals in the 16th century, the Bartholomew's Day massacre,

1:07.6

the execution of Mary Queen of Scots herself were headline news in Europe

1:12.3

and infinitely more dangerous to their perpetrators than the murder of Darnley. The problem,

1:18.7

therefore, was not the murder. It was the infinitely unwise behaviour of Darnley's widow.

1:28.0

So that was the historian Jenny Wormald in her biography of Mary Queen of Scots,

1:32.7

which has the splendid title, A Study in Failure.

1:36.5

She hates Mary Queen of Scots.

1:39.0

So in our last episode, Tom, we described the events leading up to the murder of Mary's second husband, Lord Darnley, who you don't rate as a man. I don't rate him either. We described the murder and we described the suspects and the aftermath. And we went through in true crime podcasting style, going through all the different conspirators and explaining, sort of exploring

2:02.3

the moments that led up to the murder itself.

2:05.6

And we identified the conspirators, a large cross-section of the Scottish nobility.

2:12.0

Talk us through them.

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