This week on retronauts.

Odyssey who? Oh, Hi folks Kevin Bunch here. In this episode of Retronauts we have a very special

interview to bring you. I recently got to speak with Oscar Grusman and

Tann Khmer, who were two folks who worked on advertising and marketing on the Odyssey 2

in Europe and beyond, where it was known under a variety of names, but most notably

Video Pack.

They provide a unique perspective into the inner workings of the Video Pack and how well it did in Europe and other parts of the world.

It's a perspective that I don't think you see very often in the English-speaking world,

particularly when it comes to discussing video games in the early 1980s,

where the common wisdom is that home consoles didn't really sell very well, and it was mostly based around home computers. So hopefully this

clears up some myths and answers some questions. This is something of a follow-up to

our Odyssey 2 episode so if you haven't heard that yet, I certainly recommend it.

The audio quality here is not amazing, but I think the information and the discussion that we had is absolutely fantastic and well worth

listening to. So please enjoy and I'll see you on the other end. Oh, So this is Kevin Bunch. I'm joined today by two folks who were there during the hey day of the Odyssey 2 or video pack at Phillips over in Europe.

So I suppose introductions. Start with you, Oscar.

Okay, thank you, Kevin. Well, my name is indeed Oscar Grossrosman. I am 71 years old, live in Holland, close to Eindhoven,

where early days the headquarters of Phyllis were.

I was once the product manager of video pack and game computers in the group of the black and white television.

I come back to that later on the organizational structure for some period beginning of 1980 till mid-85.

And besides me is by friend Ton, also living in Eindelover.

He was the end there.

I was the advertising manager for the,

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