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588. Carol McGiffin - Loose Women Hid My Backstage Fight With This TV Star

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Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.4 • 968 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Carol McGiffin joins Heretics for a brutally honest, no-holds-barred conversation about why she really left Loose Women and what was happening behind the scenes at one of daytime TV’s biggest shows. From explosive rows in the dressing room to being repeatedly censored by ITV, Carol explains how the atmosphere shifted as the show – and the wider industry – became more rigid, risk-averse and, in her words, “woke”. SPONSORS: Get up to 45% off Ekster with my code ANDREWGOLDHERETICS: https://partner.ekster.com/andrewgoldheretics  Go to https://TryFum.com/HERETICS  and use code HERETICS to get your free FÜM Topper when you order your Journey Pack today!  Use Code ANDREW FOR 25% OFF Plaud Note: https://bit.ly/4nJWt7j  Plaud Note Pro: https://bit.ly/423JiWv  Grab your free seat to the 2-Day AI Mastermind: https://link.outskill.com/ANDREWS2  Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at https://mintmobile.com/heretics  Start your MyHeritage journey now with a 14-day free trial using my link: https://bit.ly/AndrewGoldMyHeritage We talk about the moments viewers never saw: the massive backstage bust-up before going live, the topics she was warned not to touch, and what happened when she dared to mention Trump on air. Carol opens up about being “forced out”, the pressure to conform on issues like trans debates and women’s sport, and why she believes presenters are now expected to say one thing on TV while thinking another in private. Beyond Loose Women, we get into her clashes with Carol Vorderman over the moon landings and climate change, what she really thinks about Piers Morgan, memories from Celebrity Big Brother, Rylan and immigration, modern feminism, Kate Garraway’s situation with Derek, and why she believes TV has lost its sense of humour and honesty. If you’ve ever suspected that mainstream TV is more scripted, controlled and performative than it looks – this episode will confirm your suspicions. 👉 Watch to the end for Carol’s take on climate debates, Russia, “heretics” she admires, and why she thinks some opinions are now completely off-limits on British television. #CarolMcGiffin #LooseWomen #HereticsPodcast  Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com  Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates  Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok   Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics Chapters: 0:00 Carol McGiffin Highlights 1:30 Why Carol McGiffin Left Loose Women 5:00 What The Show Was Like At First 7:15 Moon Landing Carol Vorderman Argument 9:00 Going to the Pub - Not Allowed 11:30 Celebrity Big Brother 14:30 Carol Vorderman Patronising & Climate Change 16:30 Carol Attacks Piers Morgan! 19:20 Kate Garraway’s Husband Derek 21:30 Would Loose Women Discuss Trans? 24:15 What Rylan Said About Immigration 25:30 The Mafia Bringing Boats Across 28:00 When Carol Mentioned Trump on Loose Women 31:00 Tension on the Set! 33:30 Truth About Russia? 34:30 Ross Kemp 37:30 We Should NOT Give Up Seats For Pregnant Women 40:30 Loose Women Weren’t Allowed To Show Arms! 44:30 Is Carol McGiffin Allowed On TV Now? 46:00 The Problem With Modern Feminism? 49:30 Climate Debate 55:30 A Heretic Carol McGiffin Admires Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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known for in the United Kingdoms was being on loose women, loose women. Is it the plural?

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