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Yes, it is David C the podcast. Thanks so much for joining me today. Today's been a couple of weeks in the making.

I had a Baptist pastor on a few weeks ago known as Harvey Sparks and it was kind of weird because I had a

Harvey Sparks on and then immediately after had Hal Sparks on and so the

the comedian and actor and so people were like wait which how Sparks is a pastor and I'm like no no no it just I mean how

weird is it that I had back-to-back people on with the last name Sparks and both names started

with H. A I mean it's just so weird. So anyway, Harvey Sparks, the Baptist

pastor, the guy for those having a hard time remembering now in Oklahoma who was inviting

me out to possibly do something at the church.

We were talking about trying to make it happen, nothing nailed down.

And then shortly after that, I believe the next episode was with B Jordan in studio and so Harvey listened to the show that

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