587: Have We Been Misreading Romans? With NT Wright
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 18 October 2023
⏱️ 99 minutes
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Summary
World-renowned New Testament scholar N.T. Wright is back! He’s written an entire book about the 8th chapter of Romans, and he talks to Skye about how this chapter and its themes—including glorification and even salvation—are widely misunderstood. Also this week—How over-simplifying the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can lead to bad takes about the war in Gaza, including the justification of terrorism and atrocities. David French has a new article explaining why devotion to Trump won’t break among some Christians, leading Kaitlyn and Skye to debate the roles of reason and emotion in politics. And Phil refuses to talk about a bear that stole a frozen lasagna
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0:00 - Intro
1:29 - Show starts
1:56 - Theme Song
2:20 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling
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3:31 - Show resumes
7:38 - Latest thoughts on the Israel and Hamas War
32:04 - Advice on how to think about the conflict
38:49 - Why the Trump Fever won’t break
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57:46 - Interview Intro
1:02:42 - The Gospel according to Paul
1:16:52 - Lament
1:25:44 - Romans 8:28
1:38:15 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Conflict in Israel and Palestine: Crash Course World History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wo2TLlMhiw
The Israel-Palestine conflict: a brief, simple history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYZjOuUnlU
The Progressives Who Flunked the Hamas Test
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/hamas-pop-intersectionality-leftism-israel/675625/
Opinion | One Reason the Trump Fever Won’t Break
Other resources:
Into the Heart of Romans: A Deep Dive into Paul's Greatest Letter by NT Wright
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to The Holy Post. This week, we have world-renowned New Testament scholar |
| 0:04.6 | NT Wright back on the show. He's written an entire book about Romans 8 and how many |
| 0:09.4 | of its themes, including glorification and even salvation, are widely misunderstood. |
| 0:15.0 | And the chapter's most famous verse about how all things work together for good, probably |
| 0:19.5 | doesn't mean what you think it means. And for Holy Post Plus subscribers, we have a bonus |
| 0:24.4 | conversation with Pastor and Holy Post Pundit, Glenn Packum, where we discuss the practical |
| 0:29.7 | implications of NT Wright's view of Romans, so you don't want to miss that. Also this |
| 0:34.5 | week, how oversimplifying the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is leading to |
| 0:39.8 | some very bad takes about the current war. And then David French has a new article explaining |
| 0:44.7 | why devotion to Trump will not break among some Christians, leading me and Caitlin into |
| 0:49.6 | a debate about the roles of reason and emotion in politics. Few more quick announcements this |
| 0:54.8 | Friday, October 20th, were launching another brand new Holy Post sub-series called Are |
| 1:00.4 | the Kids All Right. In each of these episodes, we interview a different expert on what's |
| 1:05.0 | happening with young people today in our culture and in the church. This series is a must |
| 1:10.4 | for parents, teachers, and anyone else engaged in youth ministry. And this is your last |
| 1:15.9 | week to sign up and try Holy Post Plus for free. You'll get access to all the bonus shows |
| 1:21.1 | and interviews, merchandise, and live streams. So go to HolyPost.com and sign up today. |
| 1:26.8 | Here is episode 587. |
| 1:51.1 | And we're just going to jump right in because now it's time for the theme song. |
| 2:19.3 | This episode of The Holy Post is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. And by 50 years on |
| 2:23.9 | this earth, life has thrown me more than a few curved balls. The loss of a dream, rough |
| 2:28.3 | spots, and relationships, challenges, and parenting, even though friends and family and strangers |
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