Mac Power users episode 587 catching up with Casey Liss.

Hello everyone, this is David Sparks. I am joined today by my co-host, Mr. Steven Hackett. How

are you today, Steven? I'm good, David. How are you? I am fantastic and I'll tell you why later,

but we are the Mac Power users. We're here to talk about how to get the most out of your Apple

technology and we've got a guest with us today that we have not talked to now for nearly three

years. Welcome back, Casey Liss. Well, hello. Has it been almost three years? My word. I don't

feel like it was that long. Goodness. Yeah, and I know it's crazy, right? At time flies when you've

got pandemics going on or something like that. I don't know. But I know Casey that you are an

interesting guy. You're a software developer. You've got multiple applications in the app store.

For you were a contract developer for a while, right? And then you worked for a company that

did Mac and iPhone development of apps. And then you went out on your own. Congratulations,

by the way, on that. Well, yeah. Thank you. That was in no small part to the two of you. When we were

all at Mike's bachelor party slash stag duo, whatever he calls it, which was cautioned three years

ago now in 2018. I was kind of kicking around the idea of going independent. And because of the

conversations I had with the two of you gentlemen and some of the other folks that were there,

that was really the gust of wind or the gale of wind, perhaps, that I needed behind my back to

compel me to jump off the proverbial cliff and give it a shot. And at the time, I had told myself,

well, you know what, you know, my kid was what, what was he then? He was like four at the time

my elder kid. And so I thought, well, you know, if I can last till he's in kindergarten,

you know, I'll consider that successful. And then my reach goal will be in your

was at the time, you know, if my younger kid, if if Michaela could last until she's in kindergarten,

then at that point, you know, once the both kids are out of the house, then whatever, if I have to

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