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I'm Todd.

I'm Paul.

And this is the car debate.

Kia just recently offered up a session with their senior VP of Design Karim Habib, and I was able to jump on

and join a bunch of other journalists as a matter of fact to hear about their new design philosophy.

Because you all have probably seen the release of the EV6, a recent vehicle, its battery electric vehicle,

it shares the platform of the Hyundai Ionique 5 that just came out.

And this is pretty interesting news, so what happened was it was a Zoom call with everybody who had kind of jumped on

and said, yeah, I want to participate.

And it was, you know, limited to various journalists who they thought would have interest.

So thanks to Kia for doing that.

And they made Karim available.

It was 90M Karia time to ask questions.

And so what happened in advance?

Did you flash like an art center symbol or logo?

Was there a special handshake in front of the camera?

Karim knows me, and I know.

Oh, that guy.

In advance of any sort of change or any sort of presentation,

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