I can tell you who should have a miracle morning, but let me tell you something not everybody should and biologically you can fight mother nature for just so long.

Welcome to the art of charm. I'm your host Jordan Harbinger. Today we're talking with doctor Michael Bruce. We're going to talk about sleep and not just any kind of get eight hours make sure you get up and you know change your coffee schedule type sleep. We're talking about your chronotypes.

And when in your day it's best to do things like be creative. Eat a cheeseburger, have sex or just go back to sleep and we're going to discuss how to find your chronotype, how your chronotype will affect you in your relationships exercise sleep eating everything here.

And of course, throwing some curve balls like a adrenal fatigue, how to fix certain sleep issues that you're having and how to make sure that you're at your optimum peak sleep or non sleep state depending on what you want to get done during the day.

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Check that out at the art of charm.com and also at the art of charm.com slash podcast. You can find the full show notes for this and all previous episodes of the show. All right. Here's Dr. Michael Bruce.

First of all, thanks for coming on the show. Obviously, we appreciate having you come through and sleep is a popular topic. Well, as you've built a whole career around it, you already know that. However, there's a lot of pseudoscience and BS involved in the sleep stuff as you've probably also seen.

So I'd like to basically one, introduce the fact that you are a PhD clinical psychologist board certified sleep specialist. And now that there's anything wrong with that, not some kid in the garage who's like, I think I figured out the sleep thing guys.

And I love biohacking and I love biohackers, but I feel like there's a real pull when it comes to the biohacking stuff to go, well, this worked for me. So this is science now.

Yeah, no, it doesn't work that way, but I'm happy to dispel the myths as they were. Great. Yeah, you've been doing this for 16 years. Subspecialty of insomnia. Why study sleep? Was this something you were solving in your own medical life? Or what?

So people ask me this all the time and the truth of the matter is it was actually kind of serendipitous. I was in graduate school. I was interested in sport psychology. I was interested in athletes and, you know, performance and performance enhancement through psychological techniques. I was there at the University of Georgia, getting my clinical psychology degree and doing a dual degree in the Department of exercise science along with the Department of Psychology. And I'm the best internship in the country. Believe it or not was at the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, Mississippi of all places.

And I couldn't get in only the Harvards and the Yales and the Princetons kind of got into this program, but they had a sleep track that was available. And I had worked my way through graduate school. I'm kind of a geek. I understand how to take apart all those EKG machines and brain mapping machines and all of that stuff and put them back together. And that's how I worked my way through grad school. And those are the same machines that we use for sleep.

And so I said, you know what? I can do all the stuff in that sleep rotation. So I'm going to get myself accepted to that. And then I'm going to transfer once I get there into the sports psychology program. I thought I was going to do like an end around, right? And be real sneaky about the whole thing.

Right.

By the third day, I absolutely fell in love with clinical sleep medicine.

Dude, I have the opportunity to change people's lives in an instant. It's amazing. I mean, I literally change people's lives in 24 hours. It's it's truly a gift. I feel very fortunate to be able to do it and being able to recognize apnea and somebody or narcolepsy or being able to give people that information that's really, really helpful. And that's impactful.

You know, I mean, I believe that everything you do, you do better with a good night's sleep.

That for sure is true. And I mean, now with more sleep research of which you are on the cutting edge, you see now it's like, well, getting a bad night's sleep used to just be annoying when I was a kid. It was like, I didn't sleep well. Your dad didn't sleep all no big deal. He's a little cranky.

Now we're seeing, look, if you didn't get a good night's sleep, it's like you had three drinks and you should operate machinery and your task switching is lower and your cognitive abilities are slow. And if you stay up all night working a night shift.

You have the same life span issues as somebody who smoked a pack of cigarettes every day. So we're starting to find out like, oh, it's not just nice to sleep. Well, it's mandatory for all levels of human performance and pretty much every area of your life.

I think a lot of us don't really notice this stuff if we don't have a problem with it. Right. We think, well, you know, I snore no big deal. Or yeah, I've had a little bit insomnia. I have trouble getting the sleep two or three times a week or things like that.

And I remember when I was in college, every time I had to pull an all night or for anything, there was always this kid in the computer lab. And one day I got to talk and with him and he said, yeah, I'm an insomnia. And I said, well, don't they have medication for that. And he said, yeah, I'm allergic to the medication. And I thought, man, you poor bastard.

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