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585. I Beat Heroin and Prison - Then Got Cancelled for Talking to Tommy Robinson - Cullan Mais

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Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.4968 Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Once a heroin addict and serial shoplifter who stole over £10 million worth of goods, Cullan Mais has turned his life around — only to be cancelled for daring to interview Tommy Robinson. In this explosive Heretics interview, Andrew Gold digs into Cullan’s raw journey from 12 prison sentences, collapsed lungs, and multiple rehabs to finding redemption, purpose, and controversy in a woke-obsessed Britain. SPONSORS: Get up to 45% off Ekster with my code ANDREWGOLDHERETICS: https://partner.ekster.com/andrewgoldheretics  Go to https://TryFum.com/HERETICS  and use code HERETICS to get your free FÜM Topper when you order your Journey Pack today!  Use Code ANDREW FOR 25% OFF Plaud Note: https://bit.ly/4nJWt7j  Plaud Note Pro: https://bit.ly/423JiWv  Grab your free seat to the 2-Day AI Mastermind: https://link.outskill.com/ANDREWS2  Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at https://mintmobile.com/heretics  Start your MyHeritage journey now with a 14-day free trial using my link: https://bit.ly/AndrewGoldMyHeritage Follow  @thecentralclub   Insta: https://www.instagram.com/cullan_mais X: https://x.com/cullanmais91 💬 “I started heroin at 18 — and it was a tragedy.” 💬 “I stole over £10 million in retail value.” 💬 “They asked me: Are you homophobic?” 💬 “They sent me on Far-Right extremist training — just for talking to Tommy Robinson.” This episode of Heretics goes deep into addiction, recovery, censorship, and what happens when society punishes people for redemption. Cullan Mais — host of The Central Club Podcast — reveals how he rebuilt his life, became a peer mentor, and was nearly destroyed again for simply having conversations with people he disagreed with. 🔥 Topics Include: - Heroin, weed, paranoia, and recovery - Shoplifting £10 million in goods - Prison, rehab, and relapse - Collapsed lungs and a miracle recovery - Meeting Andrew Gold at a Michael Franzese event - Tommy Robinson, free speech, and media bias - “Far-Right extremist” training - The Southport murders and censorship in the UK - Why conversation is the cure to division #HereticsPodcast #CullanMais #AddictionToRedemption Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com  Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates  Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok   Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics Chapters: 0:00 Cullan Mais Highlights 1:03 The Cullan Mais Story 3:33 Andrew & Cullan’s OCD 6:03 The Drugs Journey 8:03 Weed’s Paranoia 11:03 How Cullan Got Onto Heroin 13:03 “Everyone” Is Doing This 13:53 Trainspotting & The First Time For Cullan 16:03 What It Actually Feels Like 18:03 How Cullan Stole Millions 21:03 Shoplifting With A Bag 24:03 Why Scabs All Over His Body 26:03 Clean Now? 28:03 Lungs Collapsed 31:03 Miracle Guinea Pig Trial 34:33 Michael Franzese Gig Where Cullan & Andrew Met 36:03 Cullan’s Shock Cancellation 40:03 Talking to People We Disagree With 43:33 Tommy Robinson Changed Everything 46:03 Are You Homophobic? 49:03 It’s just about flags! 52:03 The Staff Ignored Cullan 55:03 Charlie Kirk & The Problem With The Left 58:03 Far-Right Extremist Training! 1:00:03 The Southport Murders 1:03:03 Tommy Robinson Blamed Again 1:11:28 A Heretic Cullan Mais Admires Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I started heroin at 18 and it was like a tragedy.

0:03.0

I've done 12 prison sentences.

0:05.0

I've been to multiple rehabs

0:07.0

and then I discovered shoplifting.

0:10.0

In my lifespan of shoplifting,

0:12.0

I stole over 10 million pounds worth of goods in retail value.

0:16.0

Whoa.

0:17.0

My bread and butter was...

0:18.0

My lungs collapsed, basically, from the heroin and the crack I was smoking and I collapsed.

0:24.6

I woke up in hospital a couple days later.

0:26.6

They actually told my family they thought I wasn't going to make it.

0:29.6

And you're clean now, right?

0:30.6

I got this job as a peer mentor.

0:32.6

But as soon as I interviewed Tommy Robinson, everything changed.

0:36.6

We are putting you through far right extremist training.

0:39.3

You know, I end up talking about Nigel Farage.

0:42.3

I came into work one day and I was pulled into a room and asked,

0:46.3

Are you homophobic?

0:48.3

Every single staff member in it ignored me.

0:50.3

I went into a room, a side room, and broke down, like actually broke down crying. You know, I'm working for the drug and alcohol series that are meant to help people, and they're almost pushing me back to heroin. I know it's annoying when creators ask you to subscribe. But since I started, the channel's grown 10 times faster. If you don't sub, YouTube probably won't show you the next episode. It's free and takes two seconds, hit subscribe. It's a pleasure to have you here. I've known you for a while and you're a lovely, lovely man. I want to know, well, we're going to get onto an awful thing that's happening with a charity you've been working with relating to what we talk about on this show very often relating to Tommy Robinson,

1:30.7

relating to the Southport killer and all of those things.

1:34.0

But I want to go into your story first for those who don't know.

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