585 | Getting to the Boring Middle: What You Need in Place First
ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast
Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc
4.8 • 5.2K Ratings
🗓️ 9 February 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. On today's episode, we're going to be unpacking the boring middle. |
| 0:04.2 | But really, what I wanted to do is discuss the phases of financial independence, because there's |
| 0:09.9 | not a boring middle. That's a choice to look at it that way. What there is is a continuum |
| 0:17.3 | of power that is accrued to your side of the ledger each and every day if you choose |
| 0:23.5 | to look for it. Brad and I thought we were going to go one direction with this episode, and I'm telling |
| 0:27.5 | you, as we got into it, and you'll find out the conversation carried itself. This is a must |
| 0:32.6 | listen episode, and with that, welcome to choose a bye. |
| 0:42.9 | Okay. And with that, welcome to choose a bye. Before we get started, I keep this podcast entirely ad-free for two reasons. |
| 0:47.3 | First, this is a FI podcast and I don't want to promote products that I don't want you to buy in the first place. |
| 0:52.7 | And second, I really like the clean listening experience of a show where you don't have |
| 0:57.0 | to fast forward ads. |
| 0:58.3 | To keep it ad free, all I ask of you as a listener is the next time you open a travel rewards |
| 1:02.9 | credit card, go to choosefi.com slash cards. |
| 1:06.7 | And with that, onto the show. |
| 1:10.6 | And to help me with this, I have my co-host brand here with me today. How you doing, buddy? Hey, Jonathan. I'm doing quite well. What's going on by you? Well, I'm excited to get into this episode. I'm going to let everyone know up front. So Brad and I, when we record, we typically do, try to do two episodes, kind of back to back. There's a little bit more continuity there, |
| 1:27.5 | but also there's economies of scale with our schedule and getting time together. And so we were |
| 1:31.7 | motivated on multiple levels to do this second episode. One, because there's so much good stuff |
| 1:37.1 | here to discuss. But two, Richmond is facing some pretty serious inclement weather along with the |
| 1:44.0 | entire lower half of the country, I guess. But it says it's coming in, man. By the time this episode goes out, we'll know what happened on the other side. But preparation, opportunity, this is an interesting time to record. It is indeed. Yeah, we got the snowpocalypse coming in for the winter. Is that what they're calling it? |
| 2:01.7 | Is that the official term? |
| 2:02.4 | Oh, I don't know. |
| 2:19.9 | I just made that up. But I think we're going to get over foot, which is going to cripple the city. So, yeah, we'll see. All right. Well, the fire is spreading. I wanted to quickly mention what happened with the St. Louis local group. Yeah, this was wild. we both saw this on our community platform and they were getting set to do a Phi 101 local event. And Kristen Knapp, who is the amazing admin there in St. Louis and has |
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