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Mormon Stories Podcast

584: RadioWest Discussion of The New LDS Church Policy on Same-Sex Families

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2015

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

News broke last week that the LDS Church was adopting new policies aimed at married same-sex couples and their children. Mormons in a same-sex marriage will now be considered apostates and could be subject to disciplinary hearings and excommunication. Their children, meanwhile, will be barred from many of the faith’s sacred rituals, unless they get permission from church’s highest leaders. Monday, a panel of guests joined us to discuss the impacts and ramifications of these new church policies.

GUESTS

  • Jennifer Dobner is a journalist at the Salt Lake Tribune where she covers health care reform, Mormonism, polygamy, justice issues and more.
  • John Dehlin has a Ph.D. in psychology from Utah State University, focusing on religion, mental health, and the LGBT Mormon experience. he co-led the largest study ever conducted on LGBT Mormons that has been published in numerous scientific, peer reviewed journals, including the APA's Journal of Counseling Psychology. He also produces and hosts the Mormon Stories podcast. He was excommunicated from the LDS Church in January of 2015. He was credited in several news reports for leaking information about the Church’s new policy on married same-sex Mormons and their children.
  • Kendall Wilcox is an openly gay and active Mormon. He’s a co-founder of Mormons Building Bridges, a group that works to build understanding between members of the LDS Church and the LGBT community. He’s currently producing a documentary film about the experience of LGBT Mormons. It’s called Far Between.
  • Mitch Mayne is an openly gay, active Mormon who served as executive secretary in the LDS bishopric in San Francisco through 2013.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From KU we are news in Salt Lake City. This is Radio West.

0:09.0

I'm Doug Fabrizio. It's hard to say what people were expecting from the Mormon church

0:14.0

about same-sex marriage. The policy that leaked late last week, the one that officially declared

0:19.0

those who enter same-sex marriage as apostates, shouldn't have surprised anyone.

0:24.0

Church leaders had always been clear about their opposition to these marriages,

0:28.0

but going by the reaction, the question doesn't seem to be whether the church could change the policy.

0:34.0

It's whether they should have. And maybe people were just hoping leaders would find some kind of accommodation

0:40.0

or leave the issue open-ended. But an official policy with mandates for local leaders

0:46.0

seems to set the issue in stone. There are a lot of questions to talk about today as we discuss

0:52.0

the LDS Church's actions. The biggest ones may be about the children of same-sex couples.

0:57.0

So we invite you to join us after the news.

1:28.0

This is Radio West. I'm Doug Fabrizio.

1:32.0

Facebook feeds exploded on Fridays. People were trying to make sense of a new policy

1:37.0

that had appeared in the Mormon Church's handbook. That's the rulebook for local leaders.

1:42.0

What to do when members have committed crimes or sins. And for Mormons, if you're gay and you act on it,

1:48.0

that is if you have sex, that's a sin. Technically, the handbook could already cover it.

1:54.0

It made a broad reference to fornication and a particular reference to homosexual relations.

1:59.0

But this is a new policy and it's very specific. It directly states that those in same gender marriage are apostates.

2:08.0

That's new. Now that may not have been all that surprising or even outrageous to those reacting over the weekend.

2:14.0

But it was the policy about their children that really got people talking.

2:19.0

That policy says children of a parent in a same gender relationship.

2:24.0

It doesn't matter if they're married or living together. Those children may not receive a name and a blessing.

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