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Episode 582.

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My name is Mike Hurley,

and I had the pleasure of introducing the Ricky Benjamin, Federico Vatici.

Hello, Mike.

Hi.

How are you?

Very good.

A couple of, I think a couple of episodes time and that old Benchmanship's going to get put on the line. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see about that. We're also joined by Stephen. Hello, Stephen. I currently don't have a title. Neither does Mike. Yeah. but it a good, it's a good opportunity to remind people

next week we're doing the annies where we grade the year month by month on the Tichi

scale. And then after that, a couple weeks after that, we have our annual predictions where

we score the 25 predictions and make 26 predictions. So lots of fun stuff

coming up. I thought you meant there were 25 predictions. That was a lot of predictions.

Oh, can you imagine if we had decided that? Like, you have to do one prediction per year number.

That was fine 12 years ago, but now it's getting out of hand. I mean, with the flexi,

sometimes we get up there, but...

It's true. I thought you were going to say something different. I thought you were going to say, you know, who else doesn't have titles anymore? A whole bunch of people at Apple. Boom. We got it. We're straight into the follow-up. So since last week's episode, there was a bunch more change. I'm going to try and summarize this the best I can for you because I have,

I had to immerse myself in all of this news for upgrade this week.

So Lisa Jackson is retiring.

Lisa's full job title was vice president for environment policy and social initiatives. So she is retiring in

January and they are bringing in Jennifer Newssted from Meta. Jennifer will begin as a vice president

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