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You are not alone. You have found other people.

You and I have a friend in common.

Every stupid thing that a writer could do I've done.

It's really beautiful.

Gee, what I struggle, you know?

It's incredible. You know, but your head exploded,, what was really there. And now here's your host, Brad Listy. Just one person and just one time. Hi, how's it going, everybody? Welcome to the Other People podcast. I'm Brad Listy. I'm in Los Angeles. How are you? Thank you for listening. It's good to be with you. I am thrilled to have

Lisa Gabbard back on the program for a second time. She has a new book out. It is called the

word pretty relatively new. It's available from Black Ocean Press. And it's a collection of

lyrical essays that has been making waves.

And, you know, this is an indie press book.

And over the years, I feel like I've developed a pretty good eye for when a book is really

resonating.

And this is one of those books.

It's a, you know, an indie press, small press book that has been generating a lot of

excitement in the literary community and has been generating a lot of excitement in the

literary community and has been getting coverage from the mainstream book press. So, you know,

on a certain level, I feel like this is kind of Elisa's breakout book. What I'm saying is that I

feel like people who know books know Elisa Gabbard or they're getting

to know her. And my prediction is that eventually a lot more people are going to know about her.

So I'm just very excited to catch her at this particular moment. She came over, sat down with me,

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