I mean, I didn't swear or reveal secrets.

Oh, you've sworn.

You've sworn.

I'm Antelda Dukworth.

I'm Stephen Dubner.

And you're listening to No Stupid Questions.

Today on the show, what's so gratifying about celebrity gossip?

I hope that I don't get sucked into this illusion that most people are walking around in five

and chills and spent three hours in here and make up. Also, what's the purpose of small talk?

We're gonna stick to small talk. And you know what? It's okay.

We don't need to be friends.

Angela, you have mentioned in the past that you love reading a weekly magazine.

And I believe cover to cover is the phrase you used.

Correct. I read us weekly, weekly.

I would like to know why you love it so much.

And whether you consider it a, quote, guilty pleasure,

or is it something more or different than that?

I love us weekly for so many reasons, Stephen.

And I'm not sure I feel guilty about it as much as I used to.

Maybe when I was on tenure track to become a professor who didn't get fired.

The reason obviously why I would feel guilty is that there's something base about looking at

women and men parading around in sequins and whatever.

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