That drives me crazy.

It really does.

Yeah.

They should all be T-25s.

And the one that really drives me nuts is when they're T-20s.

And you load up your pals with them and you can't tell.

And then you get to where you're going and try and put that green bit in there and it doesn't fit.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building podcast, our weekly discussion about building, remodeling,

and design topics aimed at anybody who cares deeply about the craft and science of working

on houses. I'm Senior Editor Patrick McComb. Today I'm

joined by Fine Homebuilding Technical Editor Mark Peterson. Hello. Fine home building contributing

editor Ian Schwant. Hello. And senior producer Jeff Rose. Howdy. Please email your questions to FHB Podcasts at Taunton.com.

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Great to see you guys. How are you doing?

I'm doing well.

Yeah, I'm doing great.

So should we tell folks that we tried to do this earlier in the week and you had a computer snafu, Ian, what the heck was going on?

Yeah, it was an epic fail. My work computer, I don't know if it was ready to burst into flames, and that's why it just shut itself down and refused to come back.

But that computer is officially being recycled by its maker. It's

returning to the source so that it can be taken apart, hopefully, economically and environmentally

friendly. So does Apple send these to a beach and some developing nation to have them disassembled and the

parts reclaimed?

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