578: LDS General Conference October 2015 Review Pt. 3: Three More White Males from Utah and the Ponderize Fiasco
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 6 October 2015
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
In this episode an EPIC panel reviews the October 2015 General Conference wherein:
1) the LDS Church misses an incredibly important opportunity to fill 3 vacancies in the quorum of the 12 with a person of color, and instead selects (again) three white males from Utah, and
2) the LDS Church doubles down on its "the Internet is evil," "doubting is bad," "choose to believe," and "stay in the boat" rhetoric.
Panelists for this conference review include Dr. Gina Colvin, Sean Carter, Andrew Ainsworth, and Jamie Hanis Handy. These panelists are incredibly passionate, insightful and witty. I hope you enjoy.
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| 0:31.0 | It comes down to the newest idea in the church which is choose choose to believe you must choose this. |
| 1:00.0 | You must say it even if you don't you must choose it and if you choose it and say it and say it enough and say it out loud and bear your testimony of it, then you will know it. |
| 1:11.0 | You don't need any other knowledge. That is the source of all knowledge. Choose it. |
| 1:16.0 | You're right Jamie, but who is the puzzle in this conference who was in the past. I think it was a puzzle who reminded us and told us it was ballad to not have your kids up there. |
| 1:27.0 | Just reciting said to have them recited at home for practice, but the key them off of the stand. |
| 1:34.0 | Yep, that was Zelda Ballard. I'm pretty sure. |
| 1:37.0 | And I have to admit as an investigator, I got to tell you the secret people that is the creepiest part of Mormon Church. |
| 1:43.0 | Yeah, I think that is the, is it get about six year olds up there and you're an investigator and they go up and say, I know the president Thompson is a muffin of God. |
| 1:54.0 | And you're like, what is this? This is children of a corn. What is this? You still believe in Santa Claus. I'm going to take your war for it. |
| 2:03.0 | It is and what's funny is that it's not funny. I actually think it's sad. Is that members of the church do not see it as creepy. |
| 2:11.0 | So one time I often don't choose to engage in debates on this on Facebook or with friends. And so one time I just made that comment. |
| 2:19.0 | We had had a fast and testimony meeting in my word particularly difficult for me. I just felt like it was, and then there was a parade of eight or nine kids. |
| 2:30.0 | And it, it, it does. It strikes me as, you know, this is not the time or the place to show off your memorization. |
| 2:38.0 | And even worse than them doing it is the adulation they receive when they sit back with their parents. |
| 2:44.0 | You know, they'll have four or five kids, but the one who just bore their testimony gets the big arm around him. |
| 2:50.0 | And the mom wipes the tears from her eyes and gives them a kiss. And they're so proud of them. And he's choosing the right and he's doing good. |
| 2:58.0 | And then they post about it on Instagram. They secretly took a photo. So proud of Johnny Jr. who bore his testimony today. |
| 3:07.0 | And it, and they don't see it. They see it as endearing. They see it as a reward for the laborious family home evenings. |
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