We're at McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness podcast.

Have you been having doubts about your career recently or perhaps for quite some time?

Maybe you're not sure if you're in the right job or even in the right field and you

can't figure out if you should try to keep making your current position work or jump

ship to something else.

Then you'll likely recognize yourself in the stages of career transition my guest will

describe the day.

As Joseph Lu, he's a consultant, coach, and speaker who helps people navigate the challenges

of switching careers.

In his work, he's seen that there's a recurring pattern individuals follow when thinking

about and making this waiting decision which he calls the seven stages of career change.

Today I'll show Joseph walks us through these stages which begins with doubt and dismay

and end with reflection and relaunch.

With each stage, Joseph explains what typically goes through people's minds, common mistakes

that are made, and the best actions to take which sometimes involves transitioning out

of your current career, sometimes does not.

We end our conversation with practical considerations to keep in mind if you decide to make a change.

After the show's over, check out our show notes at a-wim.is slash career change.

Alright, Joseph Lu, welcome to the show.

Thanks so much Brett, Frank.

Thanks for having me.

So you have made a career for yourself helping people figure out whether they need to change

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