From Relay, this is Upgrade.

Episode 576.

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My name is Mike Hurley, and I'm joined by Jason Snow.

Hi, Jason. Hi, Mike Hurley. I I'm joined by Jason Snow. Hi, Jason.

Hi, Mike Hurley. I have a statement I'd like to make at the beginning of today's episode, Jason. I think it's important for the context of the rest of today's show. This is upgrade. Yeah, last week I threw my back out pretty bad. And today, I meant a lot of pain, Jason, is one I'm going to say. Okay. It started to get better today.

So it's actually the worst it's been.

Worse than the day when I did it. I figure that's important because, you know, I might be grumpy later on in the episode. Yeah, yeah, you might be grumpy. You might be a little low energy. And viewers of our YouTube stream will notice that you're a little slumpy too. Yeah, the viewers of the YouTube video will notice that I'm leaning back in my chair today, which I don't usually do. He's hanging on by a thread, folks. Spend a bit more time sitting up straight. But no, today, I've got the full lean back going on. Yeah. This is just like, if you listen to things that I say today and you're like, damn, I need to disagree with Mike. Let me tell you. Don't. Just keep it to yourself for this week. I would love you if you do that. Just let it fly. The boy is grumpy. You know, he's doing the best he can. He's here. He's grinding. Thank you for this opening statement. that's like it just having it's a hard it's a hard week. It's a hard week for me. Sorry that you heard your back. And ironically or or cruelly while picking up your baby. It was actually putting it down. I was putting it down your baby. So it's part of love. It was an act of love. It felt like an explosion occurred in my middle to lower back.

And then yesterday it started to feel better. It's like, great. I'm going to because we're supposed to be going away this weekend. Now we're not sure we're going to be able to do that. It's like it's all terrible over here. It's all gone. Pete Tong. I'm seeing a physiotherapist. Don't worry. Like I'm not just toughening it out. Not just gutting it out?

Yeah.

Except for right now where you're getting it out.

Right now I am. Yeah. Right now I am. I have a snow talk question for you, Jason. We actually got two questions this week and they were very similar to each other. So I thought, I don't know why this has happened. So I'll ask both of them. Duncan says California is famous for it surfing.

Jason, do you own a surfboard or buggy board?

And Logan said, do you have any thoughts on paddleboarding?

Do you own a paddleboard?

So this reminds me of when I was a kid and on the computer bulletin boards. And there were these kids in Fargo, North Dakota, who are like, whoa, do you go surfing every day? And I said, I'm a hundred miles from the ocean, friend. The, do I own a surfboard? No. Have I ever been on a surfboard? No. Does my father-in-law serve? Yes. My now elderly father-in-law is a,

he's a surfer, but I have never done it and I have no interest. My balance is not very good. I can't even water ski. I fall right over. So bogeyboard, have I been on them? Yes. Do I own one? No.

That's a thing you have like at a, if you're staying somewhere by the, by the beach where there's some waves, you can like rent one. And we've done that. Rented a boogie board at Snorkel bobs for the week with my kids, pretty much for my kids. But, you know, then you go in with your kids and you do that. Then everybody has a good time, I guess.

You can hear my ambivalence and paddleboarding.

I have never done it.

It looks fine.

We were at a lake in the Midwest a few weeks ago, and I thought about doing it, but it didn't come up.

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