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The History of Literature

576 Love and Art in a Time of Hate - How European Artists and Intellectuals Survived the 1930s (with Florian Illies)

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

History, Books, Arts

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Zelda and Scott, Henry and June and Anaïs, Jean-Paul and Simone, Vladimir and Vera... the names that ring out from the 1930s are those of some of the most famous artists and intellectuals of the twentieth century. Everyone who was everyone, it seemed, was in Europe, but as the Roaring Twenties faded, a new political reality took hold. The winds of war were once again stirring - how would these artists adapt? In this episode, Jacke talks to author Florian Illies about his new book, Love in a Time of Hate: Art and Passion in the Shadow of War, about the way figures like Pablo Picasso, Marlene Dietrich, Thomas Mann, and Walter Benjamin pursued their art - and often their passionate romances - in the shadow of political uncertainty. PLUS Jacke takes a look at some famous holiday songwriters. Help support the show at patreon.com/literature or historyofliterature.com/donate. The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more at www.thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello, it was a decade stuffed with star-studded names.

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Zelda and Scott Fitzgerald, Walter Ben Yameen,

0:32.0

Hannah Rent, Salvador Dali, Pablo Picasso, Henry and June and

0:36.8

Annais, Thomas Mann, the decade, the 1930s, that uneasy period between the roaring 20s and the outbreak of the Second World War.

0:48.2

What do artists do in a time of uncertainty?

0:52.2

Our guest today tells us they make art and make love, they write and

0:56.8

they row, they bed and wed and betray. Fight, fight or something else. How artists spent their days as the world careened

1:09.1

from conflict to chaos and conflict again. today on the history of literature.

1:17.0

Okay, here we go. Welcome to the podcast. How is that for a teaser people? All these

1:26.8

figures and all this history. It's a great decade and I didn't even mention

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Marlene Dietrich slipping away from her loveless marriage

1:36.1

to cruise the dive bars of Berlin,

1:39.9

where Jean-Paul Sartre in his Paris cafe waiting for his first date was Simone de Beauvoir.

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