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This week in Retronauts, Past Masters, and Gold Masters. Oh, Hello, I welcome to Etri-Notz. I am Stuart Chip and I am completely terrifyingly, hauntedly

alone at the moment. It's kind of weird having no one to banter with but but myself and I suppose you the fine

listeners of the Retroach's podcast but I won't waste your time not today because this

is a bit different this episode it's a couple of interviews that I did regarding a couple of, I guess what you could

term Beastmap games, hence a thematic connection. I spoke to Chris Kohler at Digital Eclipse about the making of Karateko, which is the first in their series of sort of interactive documentaries that they're making.

The next one should be revealed by the time this episode

drops or if not then shortly after, so I'm looking forward to that. I also spoke to Raymond

Tio, who was the head founder of the development team that worked on Double Dragon

Guidin, which is a really rather enjoyable, a Bismuk game in fact. Now, Double Dragon

Garden is, I'm not going to lie it so we're a little bit behind I guess

the tropicality with that one because it came out a while ago but I'm hoping that this interview might

probably a few more people to take sort of interest in it because it is good and I haven't seen a huge amount of talk about it which is a shame because it does deliver I think fans should definitely get the head around it because there's more there

going on than you'd expect and it's good fun. But you'll hear that at the interview anyway.

So for now I'll stop this preamble and we'll just head straight into the first of the interviews. B. Hello, I'm here,

I'm here with Chris Kolo of Digital Eclipse, if did I pronounce that correctly, all the way through?

Yes, everything, Chris Kohler, and then digital eclipse.

Yeah.

I think I said polar a bit too much like Coca-Cola,

and I'm worried that there's going to be some legal problems,

but no, we should be okay.

And why we're here because Digital Eclipse recently put out something that I would do not

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