It's time for episode 574 of the Clockwise podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, October 2nd, 2024.

Clockwise, Four Peoplekin Spiced Tech Podcast.

I'm one of your hosts, Micah Sargent, and I'm joined across the internet by my good pal, my dear friend, it's Dan the man

Moran. Hello, Dan. Hello, my God. I mean, this is, of course, the pumpkin spice tech podcast

because it has full of, it's full of spicy takes. And if we don't finish in 30 minutes, we all turn

into pumpkins. That is true. All very true. Canon.

And while we think about what it would look like if we all turned into pumpkins, I will introduce the first of our awesome guests joining us this week, a person who loves to be prepared and yet still was willing to join us at the last minute due to some unforeseen circumstances. My Hero, ScreenSaver Developer, Professional Book

Reviewer and Glasgow Tour Guide. It's James Thompson. Hello, James. All I'm saying is if this

is not up to my usual quality, it's not my fault.

And to my left this week, it is 9 to 5 Max editor at large.

Zach Hall.

Welcome back, Zach.

Hey, thanks for having me.

If this isn't up to James's quality, I apologize.

Let's get underway.

My question for you is this.

When you want to listen to music out loud, what are your go-to devices for doing that?

You're using a smart speaker, a Bluetooth speaker, a sound bar.

James, we'll start with you. Whenever I'm listening to music, I will have headphones in, usually AirPods or something

like that, because I work in an office with my wife.

And if I play my music, it won't go well.

But if I'm doing podcasts, I've got a Bluetooth speaker in the shower, which is where I do a lot of my podcast listening.

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