Most of us were taught to expect a linear life, school, work, retirement, stability.

Bruce Filer says life is not linear anymore, and the people who thrive are the ones who learn how to move through disruption with purpose.

Bruce is one of America's leading voices on life transitions, family meeting, and ritual.

His newest book, A Time to Gather, explores how rituals help people and families reconnect in a time of disconnect.

Bruce, welcome back.

Casey, it's nice to be with you.

Thank you for inviting me.

I'm excited to get into this series with you.

I know we have a few different episodes that we're going to do.

We're going to cover some of the things we talked about previously,

but I know you're working on some new stuff as well,

so I can't wait to get into that.

But I want to start at the

beginning, and I think we have a great flow for these different episodes that are going to be

released. I really think in sequential order, and I really felt like it made sense for us to start

these conversations around life transitions. I might say, you may not say this yourself,

but you're the master of life transitions. So let's, you may not say this yourself, but you're the master of life

transitions. So let's start with misunderstandings around life transitions. What do most people

misunderstand around life transitions? I think that the number one thing that people misunderstand

is that we think that all of the change that we're all experiencing every day.

Like, everybody listening to us has the sense of, like, I'm off track or off kilter,

like the life I was expecting to live is not necessarily the life I am living.

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