572 - KnowMads (Tom Pepe and Tom Wilson)

Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

Chris Ryan

Society & Culture, Arts

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2023

⏱️ 93 minutes

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I’ve been a big fan of KnowMads for several years now. Finally got to hang with them for a while, if virtually. I’m an even bigger fan now. These dudes bring it all: a deep pocket, great stories, thoughtfulness, kindness, and lots of heart. Check their site for upcoming dates in the PNW. Very proud to debut “Imperfect,” a new tune that wraps up our conversation.

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0:00.0	Ran jo mano, papache, anglo.
0:04.0	Welcome to another edition of 10 Gen.
1:02.4	Somebody sent me some of their music years ago. One of you, I think somebody listens to the podcast.
1:09.6	Just sent me a link to something or an MP3. I don't know what it was. And they said, hey, check
1:14.2	these guys out. I think you dig them. And oh, man, I really, I really dig them. I've been listening
1:20.8	to them ever since, as they say. It's been years. And they come at, let me put this another way.
1:31.2	I think a lot of hip hop is posing, right? A lot of, and maybe it's unintentional. In some cases,
1:40.7	I think it is intentional that people, performers assume a character and that character in the case
1:49.6	of hip hop is often a gangster or a pimp or just a, you know, hard ass tough guy who doesn't give
1:59.6	a shit about bitches. And it's all about the crystal. And I'm in the club and, you know, I'll
2:06.1	fuck you up if you come near me and you look at me wrong. And it's a lot of macho fucking posturing.
2:12.7	And, you know, nothing against 50 cent or dre or snooping. Those guys make awesome tunes. And I'm a fan.
2:21.6	But you know me, I like sincerity. I feel like if you're not coming from the heart,
2:32.3	then you might put on a great show. And it might be really amusing and it might be fun to dance to.
2:37.1	And it might be, you know, hypnotic. But it lacks heart. It lacks, it's never going to really touch me.
2:51.2	Right? Whereas someone who's coming from the heart, maybe the artistry isn't as great.
2:56.8	Maybe it's not as slick. Maybe the beat's not as tight. Maybe the pocket's not quite perfect. Whatever,
3:04.2	it, to me, it doesn't matter because I feel it from the heart. There's a song, I interviewed
3:11.6	Moby a couple of weeks ago. I haven't released it yet, but that's coming soon. And there's this,
3:17.6	probably his most famous song. He samples a woman singing, oh lord, the troubles I've seen. I don't
3:26.4	remember what the song's called. But I saw a guy play that in a club in Barcelona one night.
3:34.8	There were about 15 people sitting around drinking beers in this little Irish pub. Alley was this guy's name.
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