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Michael and Us

#571 - Benn's Bandwagon

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

With a dreary United States presidential election covering every surface, we search for some solace in politics from the past. Early in the Thatcher era in 1981, the beloved left-wing Labour MP Tony Benn launched a populist campaign to become his party's deputy leader, and almost won. We watch a documentary from the period, BENN'S BANDWAGON (1981), and ask: Was the conservative wave of the 1980s really inevitable? Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus Watch "Benn's Bandwagon" here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e4MWekQKZE&t=2s&ab_channel=ModernLonelyTV Our previous Tony Benn episode - https://www.patreon.com/posts/209-tony-benn-47399362

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0:00.0

Ottawa is the capital city of Canada.

0:05.0

Ottawa, good place, what a good city is always with.

0:20.0

Luke Savage, welcome to Michael and us. I'm Will Sloan. Here's always with. Luke Savage, welcome back, everyone. Yes, I'm coming to you today from beautiful, not quite sunny, downtown Ottawa. It's very exciting.

0:29.3

Ottawa, for those who don't know, is our nation's capital here in Canada. And I say that because I'm sure that probably every American listener does not know that Ottawa

0:39.1

is the capital of Canada. There's the joke right in Canadian Bacon, which we probably discussed

0:44.2

on like episode seven of this podcast or something back in 2016. But yeah, where the John Candy

0:50.0

characters, they're like, oh, we got to go storm the capital. He's like, right, the capital, Toronto.

0:54.7

And then that hoser guy is like, no, the capital of Canada is Ottawa, and they all just laugh at

0:59.0

him. I guess that is kind of a real thing. What takes you to Ottawa this week? I am here just,

1:04.5

you know, I was here in July to work with Ed Broadbent's papers doing the same visiting library

1:10.5

and archives Canada. I got to say

1:12.6

it is pretty exhausting work. It's incredibly cool and incredibly rewarding because you really don't

1:18.8

know what you're going to find. The way it works is all these papers were donated by Ed, I think,

1:24.7

in 2017. I mean, there's 180 plus boxes. A single box can have thousands of pages

1:31.4

of stuff in it. It is sorted. Like, if people haven't worked, you know, in an archive before,

1:36.8

you know, they do have these finding aids where, you know, there's a numbering system,

1:40.9

and it can kind of give you a sense of what might be in there. But oftentimes, you don't know.

1:45.9

Like I opened up a box the other day where there were seven files that just had a date and it said

1:51.0

Central America. You have no idea what that's going to be. In that case, it was actually pretty

1:55.7

valuable stuff. So I am literally just sitting there all day. I get there as early as I can and it closes at eight

2:02.3

and I'm going to go through as much as I can conceivably go through while I'm here and I am just

2:07.0

like combing through these files, taking pictures of things and making notes. But there have been

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