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People I (Mostly) Admire

57. What Makes John Doerr Think He Can Save the Planet?

People I (Mostly) Admire

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Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The legendary venture capitalist believes the same intuition that led him to bet early on Google can help us reach net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. But Steve wonders why his plan doesn’t include a carbon tax.

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0:00.0

My guest today, John Doerr, is a living legend in the world of venture capital.

0:10.8

Time and again, he's been one of the first to identify and invest in some of the most

0:14.4

successful companies of all time, including Amazon and Google.

0:18.5

In addition, his New York Times number one best seller called Measure What Matters, popularized

0:23.8

the management approach known as objectives and key results for OKRs.

0:28.1

Another of those alone would make him an interesting guest, but the truth is that neither

0:32.4

of those are actually the reason that I'm so eager to sit down and talk with him today.

0:38.9

This transition, Steve, to a clean energy economy is not going to be some kind of party.

0:44.7

They're going to be winners and losers, and it's going to be a bumpy and uneven transition.

0:50.0

But the alternative is too discouraging to contemplate.

0:57.1

Welcome to People I Mostly Admire, with Steve Levitt, winner of Ad Week's best interview

1:02.9

podcast of 2021.

1:06.5

The real reason I want to talk to John Doerr is that in his new book entitled Speed

1:11.0

and Scale, he's put together a plan that lays out exactly what needs to be done if the

1:16.2

world is through the zero net greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

1:20.3

It is an extortation or moralizing, it's a pragmatic roadmap.

1:24.9

While these governments are pledging to become carbon neutral, but they don't explain

1:28.6

how they'll do it, John Doerr actually has a plan.

1:37.7

So you've written a book called Speed and Scale, which lays out a comprehensive plan

1:42.0

to tackle climate change, and I want to get into the details of the plan later, but just

1:46.9

to start, what's your outlook on the climate crisis?

1:50.6

I think my favorite quote from the whole book comes from the philanthropist and activist

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