569 | Always Come Back to the Why

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Careers, Business, Investing

4.8 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Financial independence isn't about becoming the richest person in the graveyard — it's about designing a life worth living right now. Brad Barrett sits down with Katie and Alan Donegan from Rebel Finance School to explore the often-overlooked foundation of the FI journey: your "why." The discussion ranges from monthly finance meetings and intentional spending to the vulnerability required to build real community. Katie and Alan share how they track every dollar — not to restrict their lives, but to ensure their money flows toward what actually matters. They challenge the conventional FI narrative that treats saving as deprivation, reframing it instead as buying freedom. The conversation also tackles the adult friendship crisis: why making new connections feels so uncomfortable and how to push past the fear of rejection. Chapters 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:01:55 - Where are the Donegans now? 00:03:20 - Building Community 00:06:24 - Fear of Rejection 00:45:12 - Monthly Finance Meetings 00:51:01 - Importance of Tracking Spending 00:54:41 - Living Flexibly 01:24:43 - Closing Thoughts Key Topics Building Community and Friendship (03:20 - 06:24) Katie and Alan discuss the significance of local ChooseFI groups and overcoming the fear of rejection when expanding your social circle. Monthly Finance Meetings (45:12 - 51:01) The Donegans describe their regular financial discussions to evaluate spending and goals with a partner. Tracking Spending (51:01 - 54:41) How tracking spending drives awareness and better financial choices aligned with personal values. Flexibility in Lifestyle Design (54:41 - 01:24:43) The concept of geo-arbitrage and adjusting your lifestyle to lower costs while understanding the philosophy behind financial independence. Notable Quotes "Stay focused on your core purpose." (01:24:43) "Live life enjoyably, not just to save." (00:46:58) "Everything good in life comes on the other side of being vulnerable." (00:09:11) "The quickest way to be interesting is to be interested." (00:13:01) "Understand your core motivation." (00:45:47) Action Items Ask someone out for coffee or a hike this week. (00:41:30) Review your monthly spending and identify areas for improvement. (00:51:01) Consider joining a local ChooseFI group to connect with like-minded individuals. (00:06:03) Key Terms FI - Financial Independence, a state where individuals have sufficient personal wealth to live without having to work actively. (00:00:00) Geo-arbitrage - The strategy of moving to a location where the cost of living is lower in order to save more money. (00:53:21) 4% rule - A guideline suggesting retirees withdraw 4% of their savings annually. (01:00:01) Related Resources Rebel Finance School – A platform for financial education and personal growth. (01:26:03) ▶ Listen Next: Ep. 570 — State of the Stock Market Q&A | Essential Listening

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Chusify. Today in the show, we have my good friends, Katie and Alan Donagan
0:04.5	from the Rebel Finance School, and they're back for another fun, far-ranging random episode.
0:09.9	And this episode has a little bit of everything, but it ultimately surrounds always come back
0:14.9	to the why. What's that huge why? Why are we doing this? Why are we following this path to
0:20.2	FI? And it really can range from every
0:22.9	aspect of our lives. We talk a lot about Alan Katie's journey, their monthly finance meetings,
0:28.5	tracking their spending, and really, what are they spending on that adds value to their life?
0:33.1	Where can they spend less? And a whole host of other topics. I think you're really going to
0:37.2	enjoy this episode.
0:38.1	And with that, welcome to choose that fine.
0:47.6	Katie and Alan, welcome back to the show.
0:50.0	This is going to be fun.
0:50.9	I'm looking forward to it.
0:51.9	I'm so excited to be here.
0:53.3	And we have a huge list of things.
0:55.1	I was like, I have questions for Brad.
0:57.1	I need to know. Are we going to put them on the spot? Oh, yes. Oh, boy. You guys, so we did this 10 episodes ago in episode 559, where we just have a fun conversation. We have this list of random Google Doc of all sorts of different topics, and we just get into it.
1:12.7	And you two definitely brought out this. fun conversation. We have this list of random Google Doc of all sorts of different topics and we just
1:11.7	get into it. And you two definitely brought out the spicy side of me,
1:15.9	which was fun. There was a 15 minute segment in there,
1:18.9	I think from like the 44 minute mark where I'm like,
1:21.4	I was just on fire. I listened back to it. It was a good time.
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