#567: Surviving Ohio State gets personal

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True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

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🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Jim and Kathy talk to Steve Snider-Hill about his experience as a U.S. Army veteran turned student at Ohio State...And the outrageous crimes that followed.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. My name is Kathy Canning Mello. I'm a retired FBI agent and FBI
0:18.8	profiler and with me today is. Hi, it's Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler. And with me today is...
0:21.6	Hi, it's Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer-producer of criminal minds.
0:26.9	And today we have a very special guest, someone who I am so happy.
0:33.2	Well, Kathy is too, that you're here today.
0:35.9	Please tell our listeners who you are. My name is Michael Schick.
0:41.0	And Mike, can you tell us a little bit about your background? Well, I'm a former wrestler at
0:50.3	the Ohio State University. I was there from 1988 till, believe it or not, 96. I was,
0:58.2	I graduated in 93 and then stayed on as a volunteer wrestling coach. I was still competing and then
1:06.3	went to graduate school. So I was there for an additional three years. So my time was a little
1:12.9	bit longer than most. I was there for eight years. Wow. Yeah. And were you from Ohio or did you
1:22.7	go to Ohio State for a reason? I was originally from Michigan and we found our way, our family found
1:30.3	our way down to Florida. So I went to high school down here in Florida. And then, you know,
1:36.2	I started getting good in high school and wrestling and started getting looked at by a number of
1:42.9	schools. And we kept on wrestling in this tournament every year down here in Florida and Sebring,
1:49.2	Sebring, Florida.
1:50.4	And the athletic director that was there was friends with Russ Hellickson, who was the coach
1:57.1	at Ohio State.
1:58.9	He had just come to Ohio State, I think, a year before I graduated,
2:02.9	or two years before I graduated. And he cornered me at his tournament one year and asked me if I'd
2:09.9	ever consider going to Ohio State. And to be honest with you, I was laughing inside because
2:14.7	there was no way I was going to go to Ohio State. Just wasn't going to grew up in Michigan, and from the moment I was a little kid, my dad instilled in me the
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