Well, hello there and welcome to this episode of the Terry Cole show.

And I want to talk a little bit about narcissistic abuse and why I included in Boundary Boss, the book, a whole entire chapter on narcissists and boundaries, right?

We call them Boundary Destroyers because the people in my crew have these experiences and they want us to know how to deal with them.

And in the new book that I'm writing about high-functioning codependency,

there's also an entire chapter on the connection between narcissists and co-dependence,

because the new book is about codependency,

and there really is this very attractive dynamic.

It's like almost irresistible between narcissists

and co-dependence. And in this episode I'm actually highlighting a story from someone in my crew who

reached out to me Katra Kitchen is her name, and she has a phenomenal story.

A stressful story too though, so this is a trigger warning that there is a story about escaping a toxic narcissistic abuse relationship.

So it's not super duper graphic but graphic enough that I feel compelled to warn you and it was it's

written in the show notes as well that it might be triggering for some people.

But what I found in Katra's story

was the resiliency of the human spirit

and how you can survive and you can thrive after narcissistic abuse.

She shares the story of how she escaped, what brought her to the moment.

Of course, there's going to be some kind of a peak-escalated experience

that brings you to that moment

of wanting to get out, of needing to get out,

and then how she healed after that.

And now she's become a support

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