Today's guest was Surfer Magazine's editor from 1990 to 1998, the precise years that I first

discovered surfing and first subscribed to Surfer Magazine as well. And it would not be wrong to

state that my initial view of the entire surf world was a direct reflection of Steve Hawke's

own interpretation of it. Born in

Pensacola, Florida in 1955, but raised in San Diego, Hawk began surfing and skating in his early

teens. And incidentally, he actually gave his younger brother, Tony, his first skateboard. Tony would go on to become, of course,

the most famous skateboarder of all time. And we don't actually discuss Tony Hawk here today.

But if you want to hear them together, you can go listen to their episode on Kate Hudson's

podcast. It was called Sibling Revelry. And I'm sure there's other places to hear

them together, hear their dynamic, hear more about Tony Hawk. But it won't be here today.

But Steve discovered, in addition to surfing and skating, he discovered his passion for writing

at a young age. And that would actually become the central pursuit for most of his career

path and the focus of much of our discussion here today. There are a couple of things that we

don't discuss, in addition to Tony Hawk, that are related to Steve's career. They're certainly

worth noting, and that is his environmental activism and his philanthropy work.

He worked for the Sierra Club as the executive editor for their magazine and he got into that

because of his environmental activism.

And then he also ran Tony Hawk's Foundation, which focuses on investing in low-income communities.

So again, part of his career, important parts,

and certainly worth noting, even though we don't get into it today. There's a lot to unpack

here actually today, and we've actually already been scheduling a second podcast in the future

with Steve. So you can look forward to that too. Okay, but before we get into it, I do owe a

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