It's time for episode 565 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, July 31st, 2024.

Clockwise, Four people, that always has jet lag.

My name is Dan Warren, and I'm joined across the internet by my good friend, my pal, but not the pal you're expecting sitting

sitting in for Micah Sargent this week. It is co-host emeritus Jason Snell. Welcome back, Jason.

It's good to be back. I am more jet lag than you. Take that. Great. I also point out 565

episodes in, I just read a different intro line for this for the first time. And it threw

me off. You nailed it. You're really settling into your role as a clockwise co-host, finally,

after 565 episodes. 11 years, yeah. Well, this is, of course, the show where we invite two fantastic

guests to discuss four tech topics. To my left this

week, it is a writer, photographer, and greeting card publisher on the Oregon Coast. It is

Gene McDonald. Welcome back, Gene. Hey, thanks for having me. I'm very excited to be on

clockwise. And to my left, you know him, you love him. He's not quite a relay host, but sort of.

Screen Saver developer, professional book reviewer, occasional calculator impresario, and Glasgow

tour guide. I can vouch for that one. It's James Thompson. Hello, James. Hello. Apologies to

John Voorhees, but it seems that Triple J has a new member in G. Indeed.

Indeed. Then we overthrow Dan or don't. That's fine. It's more work for all of you.

Well, let me kick things off with my topic. I am curious if you used Find My regularly in its various

incarnations, whether for devices or air tags or people. And do you find it

a creepy technology or is it something that you find useful or both? Both is a valid answer too.

Gene, let's start with you. Both. I use it regularly. I think by definition it's creepy.

It's like creeping around with you or all the time. But I resisted it in the beginning until whenever it came out. My nephew was a baby and I was babysitting and my sister-in-law insisted that I share my location with her, you know, permanently if I was babysitting and just start it from there.

And it just blossomed now my whole family, including nieces and nephews.

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