565 - A New COVID Landscape in China
Public Health On Call
The Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
4.6 • 644 Ratings
🗓️ 25 January 2023
⏱️ 16 minutes
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After years of using a ZERO COVID strategy in China, which led to many lockdowns and economic questions, the country has dropped all COVID restrictions in recent weeks. Dr. Amesh Adalja of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security joins Stephanie Desmon to discuss what has happened in China, what the consequences are now and what they will be in the future. Adalja says both policies were destined to fail and we could see China in 2023 look a lot like the United States in 2020.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Public Health On Call, a podcast from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, |
| 0:05.9 | where we bring evidence, experience, and perspective to make sense of today's leading health challenges. |
| 0:16.3 | If you have questions or ideas for us, please send an email to public health question at jh. |
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| 0:22.6 | That's public health question at jh.u.edu for future podcast episodes. |
| 0:29.6 | This is Stephanie Desmond. |
| 0:31.6 | Today our topic is the COVID pandemic in China. |
| 0:34.6 | I talked to Dr. Amish Adalja from the Johns Hopkins Center for Health |
| 0:38.4 | Security about the abrupt transition from a zero COVID policy, which included years of lockdowns, |
| 0:44.1 | to a wide reopening of Chinese society as if the pandemic were over. We discussed the |
| 0:49.5 | havoc happening today and what the devastating future consequences could be. Let's listen. |
| 0:56.0 | Amish Adalja, thanks so much for joining me. |
| 0:58.6 | Thanks for having me. |
| 0:59.9 | Today I want to talk to you about COVID and China. We know that COVID was first found in |
| 1:05.9 | China. We know that it caused a lot of disruptions early on, but that China has sort of this unique policy about COVID. |
| 1:16.6 | Could you talk to us a little bit about how China's been dealing with this? |
| 1:22.8 | I think the best way to think about what China has done is it's kind of moved from two |
| 1:26.9 | different opposite poles of |
| 1:28.6 | policy, neither of which was correct. And their first policy was something called COVID-0. |
| 1:36.3 | And that was an attempt to eradicate or eliminate the virus by using very aggressive means |
| 1:43.4 | to stop cases from occurring and |
| 1:45.2 | when cases did occur to really be aggressive using overtly authoritarian measures to stop transmission. |
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