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This American Life

564: Too Soon?

This American Life

This American Life

Society & Culture, News, Politics, Arts

4.688.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

It can be hard to know the right moment for something to happen.

  • Prologue: When Jordan was going into his senior year of high school in small town Utah, he and his buddies all lived together in a house, daring each other into Jackass-style pranks and stunts. There's one particular thing Jordan did that he did not want to talk to Ira about. (10 minutes)
  • Act One: Harmon Leon is a writer and comedian whose cocktail party story about “the-weirdest-gig-I-ever-did” is more weird—by a lot—than anyone else’s we’ve heard. He answered an ad several years ago that called for a hilarious sidekick to a celebrity on a hidden camera show. (30 minutes)
  • Act Two: One of the show's producers, Zoe Chace, tells Ira about a joke she made pretty soon after something terrible had happened.

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0:00.0

Right after September 11th, we created a brand new criminal justice system at Guantanamo Bay,

0:06.0

a prison and a court to deal with people we suspected of being terrorists.

0:10.0

To do what we wanted to do at Guantanamo, we pushed aside the old rules for detaining prisoners of war,

0:16.0

so we can interrogate people how we wanted and hold them indefinitely, without charging them with a crime.

0:22.0

Maybe you have an idea of what it's like to work at Guantanamo Bay.

0:26.0

Put that aside for a second.

0:28.0

You know, you're on 42 square miles, you've got like five great beaches.

0:32.0

I partied my ass off in gimmo.

0:33.6

Just everyone was getting drunk and getting laid. I mean I love gimmo like it's it's

0:39.2

la land. We're like a Disneyland employee. Hmm, let's talk about that comparison there.

0:48.0

Oh no, that was a joke.

0:50.0

Definitely a joke.

0:51.0

It's nothing like, nothing like Line. Our mission today is to provide safe,

0:55.3

humane, legal, and transparent. The US government has its own story about what's been happening

0:59.5

inside Guantanamo all these years.

1:01.3

Legal, transparent care.

1:04.0

But we wanted the people who served at Guantanamo and survived

1:08.0

Guantanamo to tell their stories.

1:10.0

Now that they've left Guantanamo,

1:12.0

what would they say now that they couldn't say then?

1:14.0

A lot, as it turns out.

1:16.0

Chaos, simply put, it was chaotic.

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