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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

564. The Moral of the Story with JBP: Hansel & Gretel

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In this narrative analysis, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson breaks down the Grimm Brothers’ “Hansel and Gretel,” revealing the psychological and symbolic dimensions hidden within the classic tale. From the selfishness of weak fathers and malevolent stepmothers to the false promises of hyper-solicitous care, Peterson explores how the abandonment of children into the unknown mirrors moral failure at home—and how faith, courage, and sibling love can redeem it. With echoes of biblical stories and and all too modern warning about overprotective parenting, this fairy tale becomes a rich allegory for navigating betrayal, scarcity, and emerging maturity. This episode was filmed on July 5th, 2025.

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0:00.0

Hello, everybody. So in the past, I have told or read stories for children and offered an analysis.

0:13.3

And I recently released a new episode of that sort discussing the Grimm's brothers Snow White. And people seem pretty happy with that.

0:24.8

I'll read you a couple of comments. Can we have a whole psychoanalytic series on fairy tales?

0:30.2

So many hidden lessons. It also reminds me of the Peterson lectures I listened to on the Lion King, Peter Pan and Pinocchio.

0:38.6

That was some years ago.

0:40.3

Yes, more of these.

0:42.1

Please do more of these.

0:43.8

All the best from the UK.

0:45.9

Story time with Dr. Peterson.

0:48.0

Too awesome.

0:49.2

Well, the episode proved quite popular,

0:52.3

and people's responses were very positive and i like doing

0:56.5

narrative analysis um and so we're going to try another one today hansel and gretel and you all know

1:03.8

that story so we'll see how it goes hard by a great forest dwelt a poor woodcutter with his wife and two children. The boy was called Hansel and the girl Gretel. He had little to bite and to break. And once, when great scarcity fell in the land, he could no longer procure daily bread. Now when he thought this over by night in his bed and tossed about in his anxiety,

1:29.5

he groaned and said to his wife, more about her in a moment.

1:33.2

What is to become of us?

1:34.7

How are we to feed our poor children when we no longer have anything even for ourselves?

1:40.6

Now, you see, there's something troublesome right there already because his priorities are

1:50.4

backwards. He says, when we no longer have anything even for ourselves, well, a father with his

1:57.0

priorities right would be more concerned about his children's hunger than his own.

2:02.2

And so the teller of the tale, the writer, the author of the tale sets up the situation for us with

2:09.3

that foolishness. This woodcutter is selfish and as we'll see also weak, and that places his children at great risk.

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