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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

564 | FI Back to Basics | Jackie Cummings Koski

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Careers, Business, Investing

4.85.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Most people think saving $100 a month barely makes a dent in their retirement plans. Jackie Cummings Koski, certified financial planner and author of F.I.R.E. for Dummies, shows how that same $100 can slash your FI target by $30,000—a leverage most investors completely overlook. Jackie returns after five years to break down the fundamental principles of financial independence (FI) and early retirement. Financial independence means no longer depending on a paycheck, offering options and freedom in life. She shares insights on creating habits, starting small with savings, and the invaluable impact of community on one's financial journey. Evaluating expenses and adopting a mindset focused on action are crucial. The conversation explores essential concepts like the 4% rule, the significance of compound interest, and how everyday expenses affect one's FI number, leading to powerful benefits over time. This episode serves as both a refresher for seasoned FI enthusiasts and a primer for newcomers. Key Takeaways: Understanding FI enables individuals to regain control over their finances and lives. Saving money is about liberation, not deprivation; small changes can yield significant benefits over time. The power of community is invaluable in the FI journey; joining groups can provide motivation and insights. Evaluating and optimizing expenses can lead to increased savings and a lower FI target. The 4% rule helps determine how much one can safely withdraw from retirement savings. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:03:02 - Back to Basics of FI 00:04:31 - Defining Financial Independence 00:08:23 - Importance of Saving Money 00:12:07 - Building Habits 00:46:07 - Understanding Your FI Number 01:01:02 - Community and Support 01:09:24 - Conclusion Notable Quotes: "FI means financial independence; RE means retiring early." (00:04:31) "Saving money liberates you, it's not deprivation." (00:08:23) "Empower yourself by changing your financial dynamic." (00:05:40) "In investing, doing less often yields more." (00:24:40) "Save $100/month to potentially lower your FI target by $30,000." (00:47:04) Action Steps: Track Your Expenses: Start examining where your money goes to identify areas for potential savings. (00:41:19) Join a Community Group: Participate in a local ChooseFI group to gain support and motivation. (01:01:02) Develop Saving Habits: Make a habit of saving even small amounts each month to establish a strong financial foundation. (00:12:07) Resources: Catching Up to FI Podcast: https://catchinguptofi.com/ (01:09:22)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Choose Up Five. Today in the show, we have my good friend Jackie Cummings,

0:03.9

Kosky, who's back for the first time in five years, and she is now the co-host of the

0:10.1

Catching Up to Five podcast and the author of Fire for Dummies. And she's also a certified financial

0:16.0

planner. I thought she'd be the perfect person to help me with an episode that I've been wanting to put

0:21.5

together for a while, which is really a back to basics episode. This is, okay, we could call it

0:26.6

fire for dummies, but it's really, what do you do when you're getting started? What are the actions

0:31.2

you can take? Why are we doing this? What does FI mean? And this episode is not just for people who are getting started. I think really

0:38.9

this is a refresher for all of us. We touch on a lot of really interesting things in this episode,

0:43.7

especially the value of $100 per month. And I think you're going to be really surprised with this.

0:49.6

I think it's absolutely fascinating. And this episode really exceeded my expectations.

0:55.7

I think this is an important one.

0:57.1

I think you're going to get a lot out of it.

0:58.7

And with that, welcome to choose that five.

1:08.0

Jackie, welcome back to choose that five.

1:10.3

It has been far too long, my friend. It has, Brett, but this is

1:14.0

exciting. You guys were literally at the peak of my FI journey and helped me make sense of it all.

1:20.1

So I owe you guys a big thank you. Well, I appreciate you being there. And literally from the very

1:26.1

beginning, you found Chuzafi, think, five episodes into the show in 2017.

1:30.9

I sure did. I remember when I started listening, I'm like, how did I miss this one? I'm like, how many more can I go back and listen to? And there was only five. And I think this was, what, 2017?

1:39.2

Yeah, yeah. And I ended up retiring about three years later, December 2019.

1:44.7

So I started moving fast after I started listening to Choose FI.

1:48.7

That is amazing.

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