Well, hello there and welcome to this episode of the Terry Cole show. I just had a

fascinating conversation with a repeat guest on the Terry Cole show, Dr.

Perpetua Neal, and she is an expert at type A overachieving women in particular and at

trauma bonding and at abusive relationships so we had so much to discuss and about a lot of the

misunderstandings that there are out there in the world around therapy speak and how both of us really do think that this is damaging

to people's understanding of what is happening.

She is a Simon and she's your author.

She is an insider expert at Forbes,

Business Insider and Vogue.

She consults for media campaigns.

She writes for The Huffington Post.

I see a lot of her stuff in the Mind body green. She writes for Thrive Global. Her work is in 41 languages and she works across six continents. She also advises at

Stamford Business School's Neuroiversity Project.

She is the University of Cambridge, 50 women in 50 years.

She is also Mind Body Greens 20 cutting edge mental health leaders alongside Dr. Depak-Choper and Daniel Aeman.

So I hope that you enjoy this interview as much as I enjoyed interviewing Dr. P again. P again.

This is the Terry Cole show and as you might have guessed I'm your host Terry Cole

For over two decades I've been a licensed psychotherapist love and boundaries

expert and I'm also the founder of the Rail of Revolution and

Boundary Boot Camp.

On this show, I'll bring you simple strategies based on practical psychology, inspiring expert interviews, and my own insights and observations

from my time on the front lines in the fascinating world of entertainment, empowerment, and

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