From Relay, this is connected.

Episode 561.

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My name is Mike Hurley,

and I had the pleasure of introducing

the Ricky Benchman, Federico Vittici.

Ciao, Federico.

Oh, Chao, Mike. Hello. Hi. We're also joined by a very special guest today, the one and only, Mr. John Boris. Hello, John. Hello, hello. It's good to talk to you, Ricky. It's been, I've never been on a show where I've got to call you Ricky. So I'm going to call, I'm going to refer you exclude. That sounds incredibly weird. I don't know why none of us

have thought to do this before. Why? John, you're the best, you're the best, guess. This is why

you are the one true. I do not like it. Don't, don't do it again. My friends call me Richard. I'm sorry,

Ricky. I'll try to be good. I'll try to be better. Oh my God. Today, a little bit later on in the show,

we're going to be playing the Stephen Olympics, because Stephen's not here this week. And so the three

of us have made predictions about things that Stephen will do over the next 12 months.

And we will get to that.

But this is a regular episode of Connected, so we must start with some follow-up.

James wrote in and said,

Regarding Federico's comments about the possibility of design being both opinionated and accessible,

so this was a conversation we were having last time about

liquid glass. James says, I think it's possible to have a strong identity with design while still

being accessible to most users. The best example that I have found is the UK government's design

system. I put a link in the show notes if people want to see that. It's a design that has a lot of

clear and accessible controls, but also has a very strong look and feel.

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