561: How the Evangelical Movement Failed a Generation with Jon Ward
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
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🗓️ 19 April 2023
⏱️ 91 minutes
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Summary
From the Jesus Movement in the 1970s, through the Religious Right in the 1980s, the rise of New Calvinism in the 1990s, and the MAGA movement today, as a Christian kid in the suburbs and then a political journalist in Washington, Jon Ward has had a front seat to the most significant characters and events in American evangelicalism. He talks with Skye about his new autobiography, "Testimony," and why he is still committed to Christian faith despite the failure of the movement that raised him. Also this week, early data shows a reduction in the number of abortions since the Supreme Court overturned Roe, but it's less than many predicted. The so-called "independent prophets'' are predicting God will kill Donald Trump's opponents next month. Why are they still supporting him when there are alternatives? And a report finds advocates of Christian Nationalism are more rooted in cultural heritage than Christian theology. Is anyone surprised?
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0:00 - Intro
3:26 - Theme Song
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4:56 - Show continues
5:35 - MAGA prophet says anti-Trumpers will experience sudden deaths in May
13:48 - Abortion rates since Dobbs decision
29:52 - Why some Christians feel the need to pass God's law as the nation's law
43:22 - How Christian is Christian Nationalism
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59:23 - Interview Intro
Jon Ward - https://www.jonwardwrites.org/
1:02:14 - Jon's upbringing from the Jesus Movement to New Calvinism
1:07:22 - Gnosticism's influence on Evangelicalism
1:18:54 - Journalism during the Trump era
1:30:46 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
MAGA prophet Lance Wallnau says that anti-Trumpers in both political parties will start dying "sudden deaths" next month
Legal Abortions in US Down 5,000 Per Month Since the End of Roe
How Christian Is Christian Nationalism?
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/04/03/how-christian-is-christian-nationalism
Other resources:
Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation by Jon Ward
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to The Holy Post. |
| 0:02.2 | From the Jesus movement in the 70s through the religious right in the 80s, the rise of |
| 0:06.6 | New Calvinism in the 90s and the Maga movement today, as a Christian kid in the suburbs |
| 0:11.8 | and then a political journalist in Washington, DC, John Ward has had a front seat to the |
| 0:16.5 | most significant characters and events in American evangelicalism. |
| 0:20.6 | He talks to me today about his new autobiography, Testimony, and why he is still a committed |
| 0:26.0 | Christian, despite the failure of the movement that raised him. |
| 0:30.4 | Also this week, early data shows a reduction in the number of abortions since the Supreme |
| 0:35.0 | Court overturned Roe, but it's a lot less than many people predicted. |
| 0:39.6 | The so-called independent prophets are back at it again, predicting that God's going to |
| 0:43.5 | kill a bunch of Donald Trump's opponents next month? |
| 0:46.9 | Why are they still supporting him when there are new alternatives? |
| 0:50.8 | In a report, it finds that advocates of Christian nationalism are more rooted in cultural |
| 0:55.7 | heritage than Christian theology. |
| 0:58.1 | Does anyone really surprise? |
| 1:00.4 | At this point, I usually tell you what exciting new bonus feature we have this week exclusively |
| 1:05.1 | for Holy Post supporters, but I have a bit of a problem because we just have too much |
| 1:09.6 | great content to share, and I don't have time to cover it all. |
| 1:13.2 | We've got a new Christian asks about hell, a bonus interview with John Ward about journalism, |
| 1:18.1 | Old Testament scholar Carmen Eimes explains why posting the Ten Commandments in public |
| 1:22.2 | violates the Ten Commandments, and that's not even all of it. |
| 1:25.7 | We have so much bonus material, we've really stepped up our bonus game here at the Holy |
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