So Jordan, I'm very excited.

I love having US doctors on the podcast because I think you're just a bit more outspoken

and you just see it as it is and say it as it is.

And that's what we need.

Like we need to cut through this like mountain of confusion actually.

And I reached out to you on social media because I loved one of your posts that you did.

You were in your car with your sunglasses on and you were talking, but you just prescribed someone some estradiol, quite, you know, standard treatment.

And the pharmacist had sat down your patient to talk through new medication.

That's fine.

But sat down and told your patient inappropriate risks of a safe hormone.

And you had a little rant and I was like, I want you on my podcast.

So here you are.

Well, I think that maybe in continuing with Americans being outspoken, I, you know, heard that message back from my patient and I was quite literally in the car when it happened and I just had to post something about it.

So, yeah, well, thank you so much for having me here. And I was just so honored to be invited and I'm excited to be here.

Well, I, you know, I think you're the same as me.

You'll soon tell me if you won't, but I went into medicine to help people and to help people

feel better, actually.

It sounds really naive, but, you know, I was like really young when I wanted to do medicine.

No one in my family has done medicine and I was about five or six and I just said I want to help people get better and feel

better. And doing the work that I do is transformational. Like the majority, not all of them,

but the vast majority of women do feel better when they take hormones. And that's, even that has forgotten somehow

with all this like confusion and noise that we can talk about. But I don't think it's a bad

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