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Flipping Tables

56. The Years of War on Palestine with Dr. Daniel Bannoura

Flipping Tables

Monte Mader

Society & Culture

5.01.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2026

⏱️ 82 minutes

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We have all seen the photos and videos of Gaza the last two years. We have heard the stories. We have watched politicians deflect and people say "but October 7th!!". But there's a story that spans far beyond October 7th. There is a series of decisions that decimated a region and crushed the vulnerable under the thumb of the powerful. How did we get here? what is the history that led to this point? To help talk about his heartwrenching story, we welcome Dr. Daniel Bannoura. Daniel is a Palestinian theologian and podcaster. He is a professor at the University of Notre Dame, where he received his PhD degree in Qur'anic Studies. He’s also the Director of Public Engagement at the Bethlehem Institute of Peace and Justice, and host of “Across the Divide”, a podcast that provides a space for thoughtful conversations about Palestine-Israel through the lens of faith and peacemaking.

Recommended Reading: 100 Years War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi



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0:00.0

What's happening in Gaza right now is one of the great moral reckoning of our time.

0:04.5

Maybe one of the greatest moral reckonings of our time.

0:08.0

Tens of thousands of lives have been lost, children buried under rubble, families erased,

0:13.4

and whole neighborhoods where laughter used to live are reduced to dust and silence.

0:18.9

And we have to call it what it is, which is a genocide. Otherwise, we minimize

0:22.8

the suffering and we don't find a solution for the path forward. We have to refuse the comfort

0:29.2

of looking away from it. It's too hard. It's too much. There's so much going on here.

0:34.7

We can't look away. If we're honest, this moment didn't begin in October. It sits inside

0:40.5

a very long story of occupation, of displacement, of dehumanization, the denial of civil rights,

0:48.1

of a world that has too often decided that some lives are grievable and others are not.

0:53.9

The wound of the Palestinian people

0:55.8

is very, very old. The destruction of especially the Christian Palestinian community is massive.

1:02.6

And so is the wound of the Jewish people. So are the wounds carried by so many who have been

1:07.2

told across history, south of Africa's apartheid, slavery in the United States,

1:13.3

the oppression of the Irish by the British regime. So many people who across history were told

1:19.7

you don't belong, you don't matter, and you're expendable. And if we refuse to look at those who are oppressed and see their pain and see their suffering and advocate for them, then we make the same mistakes of the people who have come before us, who chose comfort over action, and who chose to look away.

1:40.5

We're having this conversation today because I believe that these wounds deserve to be named.

1:45.8

Because silence is not neutrality. Silence is consent and complicity. And because the only way through

1:52.1

the darkness is to face it, to be clear about it, to grieve it without flinching and without

1:57.4

letting our own hearts harden in return. but also to wrestle with so much of

2:02.4

what we've been told, so much of what we grew up believing and be willing to change.

2:08.8

We are here, this whole podcast, but specifically this episode, we're here to learn how to wrestle.

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