Bam! Jason Waller here with Jason Waller Unleashed and we are going to be doing a replay of Sean Wayland.

That's right. Lions Not Sheep. My brother from another mother out in Salt Lake City, Utah. We did a show there. We are sharing with you now to the Unleashed subscribers. Bam!

And I am here in Utah with an OG, a gangster for life.

This guy is built companies.

This guy is changing the game.

The Lions, not sheep.

My man, Sean Waylon.

How you doing, baby?

It's up, man.

Great to be here.

Yeah, I'm here to have you here.

Yeah, I'm here to be with you.

In the jam, you know what I'm saying?

Fucking the boxing ring right behind us, right? Yeah. Do you kick a lot of ass in here? I get my ass kicked in here. Yeah, we spar. We train in here, dude. I've seen some of the videos. I love fighting. I could tell. And this is a perfect setup. Like, not many people have a fucking boxing ring. I wanted a race. I wanted like a proper ring, you know, because you can set up mats and shit like that, but I found this dude in L.A., and he made this ring, custom made this canvas for us and stuff. So it's been fun. It's fun having it. Well, hey, you've got an awesome location here. You know, big fan, big supporter. You know, I was telling you before we started the show, my old man is like one of your biggest fans ever. He's like, dude, you tell him, keep kicking ass, you're saying his shit. So he kind of got me on to you, so really glad that we could

put... is like one of your biggest fans ever. He's like, dude, you tell him, keep kicking ass and saying a shit. So he kind of got me on to you. So really glad that we could put this together. But one of the things I really want to dive into is this is the business attitude podcast. But we tell all kinds of real fucking stories. We talk about wins. We talk about losses. We talk about struggles. We talk about being in the fucking

hole and climbing out and being a fighter and you talked about how you like fighting. And you like

being like the fucking line and you're different than everybody else. And a lot of people,

I think they somewhat know your story, but they don't know the story of how hard it fucking was

when you built up a business and you were crushing it and then you had to file bankruptcy and close that shit down and start over. Talk a little bit about that so they understand what those days look like before you got to where you're at now. Dude, they're all learning lessons, man. That's what I, you know, in 44 and I think about life. I think about where I've been, what I've done, right? Like, what are the rules? What is good? What is

bad? Like, what is success? You know, what is failure? And I, and I think back to my journey and I grew up in a single parent home. There's no silver spoon near my mouth. There's no rich family. There's nobody like, you know, if I fall flat on my face, like somebody's just going to write me a big ass check and bail me out kind of a deal. But I've always been, I've always been fiercely

independent. I tried working a real job. I had a real job for a couple years and it was like I just hated it, right? And ever, I mean, the last real job I had was 24 years ago, real paycheck. And so I always tell people, I'm like, nobody's given me anything for the last 24 years as far as like money goes. And so,

you know, building businesses is hard, man. And, and I have chosen my early career, my early days, I was the ego maniac, right? Like, I would just build it and build it and go and nobody could tell me anything. It was just like raw. I didn't have coaches, didn't have mentors. was like what the fuck you're going to teach me i'm sean whalen right major ego major ego i still have a

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