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The Allusionist

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The Allusionist

Helen Zaltzman

Words, Entertainment, Education, History, Etymology, Helen Zaltzman, Linguistics, Arts

4.73.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2017

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

As discussed in episode 51, Under the Covers part II, the vocabulary for sex and associated body parts is tricky to navigate in many ways – but even more so if you are trans or gender non-binary.

CONTENT NOTE: this episode contains strong language and frank discussions of sex and bodies.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the illusionist, in which I, Helen Zoltzman, flipped the lights on and off to tell

0:08.8

language, it's time to call it a night.

0:12.6

Content note, this episode contains Frank language pertaining to sex and associated body parts

0:18.6

because it is a follow-up to episode 51 under the covers part 2, the one where we were

0:22.8

discussing the inadequacy of the lexicon for sex and genitals.

0:27.3

As being an example of a problematic word, as etymologically it pertains to procreation,

0:32.8

which is not what all of us are using those body parts for, and not everybody used them

0:37.2

for sex either, it's tricky territory.

0:40.2

Maybe tricky territory would serve as a sin in genitals?

0:43.6

Anyway, the episode received a particularly strong response from trans and gender non-binary

0:48.8

listeners.

0:49.8

You wrote to tell me about some of the ways in which you've contended with this vocabulary,

0:53.8

all dimensions of which I, as a cis woman, was utterly ignorant, so I'm very grateful

0:58.9

to you for illuminating me, and a few of you appear in this episode, which is all about

1:03.5

trans people's experiences of this particular linguistic matter.

1:08.2

Important to specify, it's the experiences of some trans people, it's not meant to imply

1:14.0

a universal trans experience.

1:16.5

Also the vocabulary is evolving and expanding rapidly, so this episode is just a reflection

1:22.4

of where it is at the moment in May 2017.

1:26.0

Lastly, I have to preface this by saying, I do not believe that gender identity is conferred

1:31.9

by body parts.

1:33.4

All right?

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