Welcome to The Holy Post. On today's show, we talk about the Southern Baptist Convention's decision to kick out Saddleback Church because they ordain women.

Rick Warren defends the church he founded, and other SBC voices are ready for the battle that's likely to come this summer during the convention.

Then, Caitlin talks to Dr. Beth Felker Jones and Dr. Amy Peeler about Joshua Butler's very controversial article comparing the gospel to Marital sex.

He explains how his article gets the metaphor and the New Testament about marriage, fundamentally wrong. All of that, plus a new study finds evangelicals are the least liked religious group in America, except among evangelicals who think they're great, and someone is anonymously leaving their mark on Broadway.

Before we jump into the episode, I have a really important announcement. A couple of weeks ago, we asked you to submit your questions for me, Phil, and Caitlin. We compile all those questions, and then our Patreon supporters voted on which one they wanted us to answer, and we have a winner.

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Hey there. Welcome back to the Holy Post podcast. I'm Phil Vissier. I'm here with Caitlin Chess. Hi, Caitlin. Hi, Phil.

Hi, Caitlin is coming from the Caitlin Chess Memorial Library, where we see all the many, many books. Memorial. Yes, she died recently. When she died, she donated the books to herself, and now she has a library. And Sky, Jitani. Hi, Sky, coming from the Sky, Jitani Memorial Death Star. How's it going? That's actually appropriate. Yeah, yeah, it's Death Star. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're the star of your own death. Memorial, at least, speaking.

Hope to be one day. Now it's time for the theme song.

What's the news that you like the most? Who's your favorite podcast host? If it's breakfast, get your toast. It's Sky and Phil and the Holy Post. Sky and Phil and the Holy Post.

And sometimes, take land.

What if you are the star of your own death? What if someone else like takes the stage and takes off? Well, if you get murdered by someone famous, or, or if you're part of a large death event, where someone more famous than you is involved, then you're going to go down on a plane with Beyonce.

Then it's like, no one will remember. I never existed. It's like, yeah, yeah, you know, when the big bopper and Frankie Valley and those guys went down on the plane. Yeah, I was on the plane too.

I don't know what it cares. Nobody cares about me. Richie Valens. Do you know what we haven't done in a long time?

Oh, no. That's good. I like to have it, Phil. Just do it. Just rip it off. I like that. I like that attitude, Caitlin. I like it.

I like it. I like it a lot. Now it's time for news of the butt. And now it's time for news of the butt.

And before you get mad at me, Caitlin, before you get mad at me, this story was forwarded to me by Skyjutani.

I saw Skyjutani.

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