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557 | Steve Teles: Can the Abundance Agenda Win America's Factional Future?

The Realignment

The Realignment

Technology, News Commentary, National Security, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, News, Public Policy, Economics, Politics, Saager Enjeti, U.s. Politics, Policy

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Steve Teles, Niskanen Center Senior Fellow and Johns Hopkins University professor, returns to The Realignment. Marshall and Steve discuss Ezra Klein's shout-out to The Realignment in the New York Times, Marshall's experiences debating the abundance agenda on Breaking Points and interviewing The Atlantic's Derek Thompson and Rep. Jake Auchincloss at Welcome Fest, whether factional fights vs. friendly conciliation is the best way to advance abundance arguments, and more...

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0:00.0

Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment.

0:04.8

Hey, everyone, welcome back to the show.

0:06.6

I just wrapped my big return to D.C. trip last week.

0:10.6

I co-hosted Breaking Points with Krista Ball, and she and I did a nice, long segment debating the abundance agenda and its relationship with the left, which as folks have seen has provoked a lot

0:22.5

of controversy in a bunch of book reviews, podcasts, and other discussions. I've linked that

0:28.3

interview and discussion in the show notes and definitely recommend folks check it out.

0:32.7

I then went to Welcome Fest, which was a big moderate Democratic party gathering to interview

0:39.7

Derek Thompson and Representative Jake OckinCross about the Abundance Agenda.

0:45.1

Hopefully we'll be airing the audio and the video of that conversation later on this month.

0:50.7

And then, from a broader realignment perspective, Steve and my recent episode

0:55.0

on Abundance was shouted out by Asra Klein in his latest column, really reckoning with a lot of

1:00.5

the backlash of disagreements that had come out of Abundance Agenda fights. So Steve came back on the

1:04.7

realignment a little earlier, the normal to unpack all these events with me as we all try

1:10.1

to figure out where the abundance agenda goes

1:11.9

next and get to my broader project of turning this into something that is yes and they can bring

1:17.5

in people who have felt excluded or ignored in the actual debate as we figure out what this

1:21.9

actually looks like moving forward. I'm also going to be back in Portland and so upcoming weekend

1:26.2

hosting dinner with a couple of friends in government focused on the abundance agenda itself.

1:30.9

So this is top of mind.

1:32.5

We will be covering other topics beyond abundance the rest of the month, but I'm excited to keep diving in.

1:37.9

I hope we will get more feedback on this as once again, this all continues to evolve.

1:43.4

Huge thanks to the Foundation for American Innovation for support of the work of this podcast.

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