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Okay, so we're at part two of our interview with Juliana Viegas-Haz, a fascinating first segment about her mother growing up in the Congo, about her growing up in Belgium, with a single mother raising five children, about her years in the church in Belgium, her mission on Temple Square.

Some challenges she faced on her mission and then marrying her husband at BYU and raising children in the church as she and her husband started to confront historical and doctrinal and cultural issues that started to become problematic.

So that led her to the point where she felt moved in July of 2015 to write an article called An Op-Ed article in the Salt Lake Tribune called What Do Progressive Warmens 1, a dialogue about change.

And this is a really interesting and important article and let's just go ahead and dive in.

So first you in the article you sort of trying to find progressive Mormonism. What does progressiveism mean to you?

Well, there isn't I think a definition of what progressive Mormon, like one definition that encompasses the thoughts of all progressive Mormons. Why? Because we are all at different stages.

We all care more or less about different issues, but there are those issues that just surface more than others.

And I think a lot of people don't understand that this op-ed wasn't just me saying, you know, what bothers me. I did do a survey in a couple of forums which have thousands of people in them and ask them, what is it that you would change if you could?

And those 10 points that came up are the ones that people would mention the most. So I did my grids and I didn't know how many of these and that.

And there is a lot more than 10 points by the way, but those 10 points were the ones that would surface the most. In fact, I think almost perfectly in the order I put them.

So meaning most. The first one is the most important. The first one is the most important.

Okay. Now just to clarify, you define progressive Mormons as someone who people who are less likely than traditional Mormons to believe in the following.

Obedience to authority over personal revelation, personal inspiration. So progressive Mormon is going to say, if my inspiration conflicts with the brethren, I'm more likely to go with my own.

Okay. The other church's unique restoration claims, meaning that they're less likely to view the other church as the one true church.

The one and only.

But instead they're going to see it as what?

There is many ways to get to God or to get to achieve a place in the kingdom where God is or whatever that is.

I should speak for myself because at this point, but there is not one only way to find God and to be with him.

And we do not condemn. And I know the church doesn't either, but in the rhetoric we have, it does.

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