Welcome to the Huntback Country podcast presented by Exo Mountain Gear.

This is episode number 555, and we are joined by Petra Hillberg

of Hillberg Tense. You may have heard us talk about our experiences with Hillberg Tense.

Steve's been using them for a decade. Myself, not quite as long. I personally own a Hilleberg Nyack, which I've used extensively,

but I've probably slept in maybe a half dozen different Hilleberg models over the years.

Even though I have pretty good experience with Hilleberg Tense, I learned some things in this podcast

and was interested to hear more about what makes a

hillberg a hillberg and what the backstory is behind this family company i know you guys will

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right back. Let's dive into this conversation with Petra.

Well, Petra, I feel like it's long overdue to have you on the podcast.

I know for myself and for you, Steve, you have even a longer history of using Hillberg Tense

and then also being a dealer for Hillberg Tense through us in this archery for at least a decade now.

Yeah, I remember email and Petra a long time ago. I went asking us, I was probably still in my garage and I kind of had to, I don't know if I had to get, I certainly had to get permission from you to sell them, but it was like, kind of had to tell you like, hey, I'm, here's who I am and what I'm doing. and I think you definitely had to consider it because I was so small at the time.

Yeah.

Well, we wanted to work with people that were. you're like, hey, here's who I am and what I'm doing. And I think you definitely had to consider it because I was so small at the time.

Yeah.

Well, we wanted to work with people that were passionate about it and understood what we're doing.

I think I know part of the story and background of Hilberg, but I also feel like there's a lot of gaps or maybe misunderstandings that I have.

Can you give us like the 30,000 foot view of

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